Trump agrees to meet with North Korea's Kim Jong Un, South Korea says

a reply to: tate566

I think the "de-Nuke" has already happened behind the scenes.

I think Trump used some "assets" that have not been made "Public" yet 😉

Big "accident" in NK last November.

Game is over 😮

The SOP used is the US gives Kim a couple of billion dollars for his personal bank account and he stops talking about and showing nukes to the world.

It's a trap!

*insert Star Wars meme here*

Also if they were to meet, where would they meet? I'm presuming in South Korea? I couldn't imagine a Trump motorcade during through the city of Pyongyang, I could be wrong though. They should meet somewhere random a small uninhabited desert island in the Pacific

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: tate566

I think the "de-Nuke" has already happened behind the scenes.

I think Trump used some "assets" that have not been made "Public" yet 😉

Big "accident" in NK last November.

Game is over 😮

What color is the sky in your world?

originally posted by: ThePeaceMaker
It's a trap!

*insert Star Wars meme here*

Also if they were to meet, where would they meet? I'm presuming in South Korea? I couldn't imagine a Trump motorcade during through the city of Pyongyang, I could be wrong though. They should meet somewhere random a small uninhabited desert island in the Pacific

They are not going to meet. Rex Tillerson is speeding back to DC to explain why it's not.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: tate566

I think the "de-Nuke" has already happened behind the scenes.

I think Trump used some "assets" that have not been made "Public" yet

Big "accident" in NK last November.

Game is over

What color is the sky in your world?

kinda depends on the weather 🤔

a reply to: ThePeaceMaker

Of course it is a trap, and like real estate it is going to be location, location, location.

Any country, that is an ally of the USA, like South Korea, or even Canada, would be a bad idea. And as many who hates this idea, the ideal country for these kinds of talks would be China. It would diffuse and render any trap on the part of North Korea to be useless.

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: ThePeaceMaker

Of course it is a trap, and like real estate it is going to be location, location, location.

Any country, that is an ally of the USA, like South Korea, or even Canada, would be a bad idea. And as many who hates this idea, the ideal country for these kinds of talks would be China. It would diffuse and render any trap on the part of North Korea to be useless.

The offer itself was the trap, and Trump fell for it. Washington has a long list of preconditions for the talks, none of which DPRK will agree to. The talks won't happen, and Kim will claim that it is because Trump is a hypocritical war monger. The media will call it a failure on Trump's part and attention will return to the porn stars the president has been paying off. Once that blows over, enter Mueller.

a reply to: DJW001

I know that the offer is a trap, and Trump took the bait. Trump agreed to the talks, hence the danger now.

The location of the talks will be crucial. Here is how it could go down. Lets say that they proceed, to the talks.

If the talks are held in the USA or even North America, all NK has to do is show up with a person, that will be pointed out as being someone important, along with Kim. Now if the person dies or anyone on that diplomatic team, and NK will claim that the US violated some diplomatic protocol and did an act of war, and hostilities will break out.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

What's a better plan, then?

a reply to: ventian

As I have stated before, Trump will need to attend the initial talks. And do such with China present, perhaps hoping such in China.

If this is done in China, any trap where someone dies, is immediately disarmed.

He could suggest Russia as well, for the same reason as China.

And in both cases, the host country would want to pay attention, if not be present to be the mediator. In this case having witnesses present, such as other countries and the media would not be such a bad idea, cause then it is on tape, and recorded, and it levels the playing field on both sides, preventing the inevitable he said/he said routine from a private meeting.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

Kim will offer Trump a grand state reception in Pyongyang. Trump loves that sort of theater. Will the Secret Service allow it?

Somewhere on this board I posted a few months back that before you attack another country you have to use up ALL diplomatic solutions.

This may be Kim's last chance.
If these talks fail, or deliver nothing but empty promises,
I can almost guarantee that we will attempt to take out North Korea.

I think this is THE last chance.

But that is just a hunch.

a reply to: DJW001

I don't think that would be wise thing to do, as there would not be any guarantee of safety for the sitting President or any who would travel there, and it gives NK too much weight in the position.

Negotiations would be best done away from both countries, that way both are on equal footing. The reason why I stated China, is that not only do the Chinese have a vested interest in a Korea where the North and South are no longer having tensions, but in these talks, China is stating it wants no part in them. Thus they are a disinterested country, and would not tolerate any sort of misbehavior on either side of the table. It means both the USA and NK would have to behave. And knowing that the Chinese are watching, would thus want to be sincere in the negotiating. If one side shows insincerity, then the Chinese could give the other side information to use in the talks. Not enough to be damming, but enough to make the other change their tone.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

Short answer: not going to happen.

a reply to: DJW001

So what do you think is going to happen?

So let's recap :

Peace is at reach! very close ! very very very close, says the media!
How did we get so close ? Let's explain!

1) South Korea and North Korea leaders have an inconclusive meeting in the DMZ with lots of handshakes and no effects.
2) An old decaying nuclear research center is closed since November 2017 in North Korea, but the Reuters reports its closure now.
2) South Korean president says the US military will permanently stay in the country
3) South Korean president says that the North will unilaterally "de-nuclearize" ... in full, without questions!!!
4) Western media says this is a great success and Reuters report that North Korea will fully "de-nuclearize" without questions

Did I miss anything to explain this beautiful recipe ? It's fantastic, isn't it ?

5) Gremlins used to steal and eat Kim Jong Un's homeworks when he was in primary school, unnamed officials report!

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: DJW001

So what do you think is going to happen?

Kim will get his picture taken with the President of the United States. He will demand the complete removal of America's presence in East Asia as a condition for DPRK's denuclearization. The Pentagon will tell Trump "no can do," and everyone will go home.

a reply to: Flanker86

It's fantastic, isn't it ?

Yes. Literally fantastic.

a reply to: DJW001

I tend to agree on the general expectation that this is not going to end well, but have a slightly different expectation of why it will end badly.

Simply put, even if this were all genuine at this point between north Korea south Korea and the executive branch....

There are far too many people who have a vested interest in making sure it goes off the rails.