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The FBI paid Best Buy Geek Squad employees as informants, rewarding them for flagging indecent material when people brought their computers in for repair. That's according to documents released to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital civil liberties organization, which filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit seeking records that might show warrantless searches of people's devices. EFF filed its complaint last year after revelations about the FBI's interactions with Geek Squad technicians emerged in the case of Mark Rettenmaier, an Orange County, Calif., physician and surgeon who took his computer in for repair when it wouldn't boot up. Rettenmaier faced child pornography charges after a Geek Squad employee flagged his computer to the FBI. In May, a federal judge threw out almost all the evidence (which prosecutors said included hundreds of images of child pornography) because of "false and misleading statements" an FBI agent made in an affidavit to get a search warrant for Rettenmaier's house. The government ended up dropping the charges against him.
The records now released to EFF shed a bit more light on the relationship between Best Buy and the FBI. The documents show a range of interactions: a $500 payment from the FBI to a Geek Squad employee, a meeting of the agency's Cyber Working Group at Best Buy's computer repair facility in Kentucky, and a number of investigations in which Geek Squad employees called the FBI field office in Louisville after finding suspected child pornography.A key question is whether Best Buy employees "go fishing" in customers' devices with the goal of helping the FBI.
originally posted by: Halfswede
Deliberately scanning a customers computer is totally shady, but if a tech comes across child porn or even a hint of child porn on a PC and don't pass that on to law enforcement, they are total scum. On the other hand, if the FBI uses a geek squad guy as a way to confirm suspicions, then so be it. The reality is, I don't care how it is found out, people with child porn need to get fried. There should be no loopholes for child porn evidence to be thrown out. It should be a special category of crime. Crimes against children practically deserves a constitutional amendment regarding due process waiver.
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
I don't support or condone ugly things, but a business that solicits customers to make money and corporate fortune who rats on their customers are total scum bags just as bad as any perps they might encounter while repairing computers. Any company that does this deserves nothing but eradication from the planet. Calling them The Judas squad. I wonder how much money the FBI paid them to betray their own customers.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
I don't support or condone ugly things, but a business that solicits customers to make money and corporate fortune who rats on their customers are total scum bags just as bad as any perps they might encounter while repairing computers. Any company that does this deserves nothing but eradication from the planet. Calling them The Judas squad. I wonder how much money the FBI paid them to betray their own customers.
So reporting Child porn makes them as bad as the pedo's, because they also happen to be in the business of computers?
Sounds like despite "not supporting or condoning ugly things" you'd have been ok if the squad let the pedo's slide... Surely not.
Having said that, if you're worried about people snooping around, learn to fix your own computer.
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
I don't support or condone ugly things, but a business that solicits customers to make money and corporate fortune who rats on their customers are total scum bags just as bad as any perps they might encounter while repairing computers. Any company that does this deserves nothing but eradication from the planet. Calling them The Judas squad. I wonder how much money the FBI paid them to betray their own customers.
So reporting Child porn makes them as bad as the pedo's, because they also happen to be in the business of computers?
Sounds like despite "not supporting or condoning ugly things" you'd have been ok if the squad let the pedo's slide... Surely not.
Having said that, if you're worried about people snooping around, learn to fix your own computer.
Amazing logical fallacy. How many? I count three in your reply. Having nothing whatsoever to do with anything I said to boot.
CNN called, they like your style.
A business that uses you to make money from you, their lifeblood, stabs you in the back when they are finished. And it is all arbitrary.
I think it's good to catch these people, but not in this manner. That is pure dog ShT. Like your reply was.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
I don't support or condone ugly things, but a business that solicits customers to make money and corporate fortune who rats on their customers are total scum bags just as bad as any perps they might encounter while repairing computers. Any company that does this deserves nothing but eradication from the planet. Calling them The Judas squad. I wonder how much money the FBI paid them to betray their own customers.
So reporting Child porn makes them as bad as the pedo's, because they also happen to be in the business of computers?
Sounds like despite "not supporting or condoning ugly things" you'd have been ok if the squad let the pedo's slide... Surely not.
Having said that, if you're worried about people snooping around, learn to fix your own computer.
Amazing logical fallacy. How many? I count three in your reply. Having nothing whatsoever to do with anything I said to boot.
CNN called, they like your style.
A business that uses you to make money from you, their lifeblood, stabs you in the back when they are finished. And it is all arbitrary.
I think it's good to catch these people, but not in this manner. That is pure dog ShT. Like your reply was.
I was just addressing your initial fallacious post.
I see you're argument has run its course already.
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
I don't support or condone ugly things, but a business that solicits customers to make money and corporate fortune who rats on their customers are total scum bags just as bad as any perps they might encounter while repairing computers. Any company that does this deserves nothing but eradication from the planet. Calling them The Judas squad. I wonder how much money the FBI paid them to betray their own customers.
So reporting Child porn makes them as bad as the pedo's, because they also happen to be in the business of computers?
Sounds like despite "not supporting or condoning ugly things" you'd have been ok if the squad let the pedo's slide... Surely not.
Having said that, if you're worried about people snooping around, learn to fix your own computer.
Amazing logical fallacy. How many? I count three in your reply. Having nothing whatsoever to do with anything I said to boot.
CNN called, they like your style.
A business that uses you to make money from you, their lifeblood, stabs you in the back when they are finished. And it is all arbitrary.
I think it's good to catch these people, but not in this manner. That is pure dog ShT. Like your reply was.
I was just addressing your initial fallacious post.
I see you're argument has run its course already.
Hey if backstabbing your customers floats your boat, be my guest. You would fit right in there.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
I don't support or condone ugly things, but a business that solicits customers to make money and corporate fortune who rats on their customers are total scum bags just as bad as any perps they might encounter while repairing computers. Any company that does this deserves nothing but eradication from the planet. Calling them The Judas squad. I wonder how much money the FBI paid them to betray their own customers.
So reporting Child porn makes them as bad as the pedo's, because they also happen to be in the business of computers?
Sounds like despite "not supporting or condoning ugly things" you'd have been ok if the squad let the pedo's slide... Surely not.
Having said that, if you're worried about people snooping around, learn to fix your own computer.
Amazing logical fallacy. How many? I count three in your reply. Having nothing whatsoever to do with anything I said to boot.
CNN called, they like your style.
A business that uses you to make money from you, their lifeblood, stabs you in the back when they are finished. And it is all arbitrary.
I think it's good to catch these people, but not in this manner. That is pure dog ShT. Like your reply was.
I was just addressing your initial fallacious post.
I see you're argument has run its course already.
Hey if backstabbing your customers floats your boat, be my guest. You would fit right in there.
Well one, you know nothing about me.
Two, no one is forced to do business with them, and there are a plethora of small computer shops all over that would be more than happy for the new business.
Three, if a customer is an actual pedophile and the pictures on the computer are of children the individual has had direct face to face contact with, should he be stopped and put away ASAP, or do we just let it slide for now so we save costumer feelings.