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Lawsuit: 100,000 noncitizens registered to vote in Pennsylvania

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posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 07:06 PM
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By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Monday, February 26, 2018

More than 100,000 noncitizens are registered to vote in Pennsylvania alone, according to testimony submitted Monday in a lawsuit demanding the state come clean about the extent of its problems.

The Public Interest Legal Foundation, which has identified similar noncitizen voting problems in studies of Virginia and New Jersey, said Pennsylvania officials have admitted noncitizens have been registering and voting in the state “for decades.”

But state officials have stonewalled PILF requests for access to the data that could expose the problem, the group says in a lawsuit filed in federal court in Harrisburg.

“For months, Pennsylvania bureaucrats have concealed facts about noncitizens registering and voting — that ends today,” PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said.
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That's the real reason democrats want to defend illegal immigrants, and that's how Hillary got the popular vote. Several of us have pointed out how in several democrat cities the left have been allowing non-citizens including illegals to vote.

This comes at the same time that Rahm Emmanuel introduced an ID plan to give illegal immigrants a driver's license which would allow them to vote...


By John Byrne

Reporter Chicago Tribune

Municipal ID cards that Mayor Rahm Emanuel is launching for undocumented immigrants and others will be a valid form of identification for people both registering to vote and voting in Chicago, according to a letter aldermen received Friday.

Clerk Anna Valencia, who’s heading up the CityKey program, cited state election rules to explain why the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners will accept the card.
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www.chicagotribune.com...

Democrats are the party of criminals resorting to allowing non-citizens, including illegal immigrants to vote in our elections.


No wonder democrats want to do anything in their power to stop deportations of those illegal immigrants who will vote democrat.



edit on 1-3-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: correct excerpt and link.


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posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 07:18 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Well,

If you can't get the US citizens to vote for you, why not bring in foreign voters?




posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

They want to make sure all these illegals have a chance to vote before the midterms.. Crazy that they want to give illegal citizens voting privilege, especially when illegal immigration is such a hotly discussed topic.

Dems like to act like they give two sh*ts about illegals, when in reality, they do not care.. They see a vote, they know the likelyhood is they wont vote Republican ticket. They want control of the house/senate, and they know there's millions of votes out there if they give them voting privilege
edit on 1-3-2018 by jhn7537 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Wow...big surprise!! *rolls eyes
Party of criminals is the perfect analogy for the delusional Dems.
Subverting the laws of the USA, a country they have taken an oath to protect, is something they are very proud of.


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posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 07:39 PM
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Trump needs to change the max penalty from one year to ten years for voting as a noncitizen. Then step up it’s enforcement so that these noncitizen idiots know with a high degree of certainty that if the vote they will go to jail.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

They want to make sure all these illegals have a chance to vote before the midterms..

Dems like to act like they give two sh*ts about illegals, when in reality, they do not care..


Yes, remember at midterms DACA Folk: Trump is ready to give you twice as many opportunities, but the Dems slapped it down. You're a talking point bargaining chip to them and nothing more.

Vote Repub if you're illegal voting---Trump will fix it!



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

REGISTERED TO VOTE...

Apparently you are not familiar with the “acorn con”....

What happens is these forms will pay college kids and other unemployed people 5$ per person they register.

Well there used to be no real way to track who was registered in the field. So they would just accept any registrations that were filled out..

This led to people just going home and filling them out with fictional names they would just make up. Rather than actually going out and registering people.

Because of that you can find Elmer Fudd and bugs bunny in every state, BUT THEY OBVIOUSLY DONT SHOW UP TO VOTE.




It is just one more rightwing scandal, investigated by a GOP congressional committee which found no wrong doing..


It is a joke..

Just another way for conservative pundits to make the gop base look like retards..



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 08:20 PM
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How can this be leagle , isn't this grad ? If you are here illegally how can you vote , does this work for felons too?



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: JHumm
How can this be leagle , isn't this grad ? If you are here illegally how can you vote , does this work for felons too?


Isn't that forigen manipulation in an election ?



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Well,

If you can't get the US citizens to vote for you, why not bring in foreign voters?



Yup...

thats how our elected idiot seems to be doing it...



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posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

That's not what happened here.

In PA, when you get your driver's license renewed, you answer some questions on a display screen. One of the questions is an offer to register to vote and/or change your party affiliation. This is along with an offer to be an organ donor, etc.

This makes it very easy to register to vote in PA. Since illegals can get driver's licenses, they are offered a voter registration. There are no checks of citizenship in this method. This is what the lawsuit is about.

I think it's likely that an illegal would not be afraid to actually vote, since the registration was freely offered to them from an official source.




edit on 3/1/18 by BlueAjah because: eta



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 08:40 PM
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In fact id say that the official dource is the only liable party. The illegal voter acted in good faith under direction from a government agency.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 08:49 PM
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Trump needs to change the max penalty from one year to ten years for voting as a noncitizen.


Hoe about we lock up people for voter suppression instead, we could get rid of the entire GOP that way.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: CB328



Trump needs to change the max penalty from one year to ten years for voting as a noncitizen.


Hoe about we lock up people for voter suppression instead, we could get rid of the entire GOP that way.


Say what?
What don’t you get about it’s illegal for non US citizens to vote in this country?
It’s not voter suppression if they shouldn’t be voting in the first place.
Plain and simple facts evade you Leftists, don’t they?



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 09:05 PM
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My past includes law enforcement and community corrections. In my community corrections capacity I attended court for and against my clients and in addition oversaw and monitored 300+ house arrestees and the local work release program for county jail inmates.

Here in Alabama we have many illegals from Latin America. I'm a compassionate person and found that many of my illegals were good folk, but the bad ones are really bad. TONS of Meth and fear no one bad.

Our system looks the other way on illegals--as long as they're paying their fines TPTB don't care what their real identity is, or that they're here illegally and that aspect wasn't fair to my American clients who are treated much rougher. Or our community for that matter.

It's a dichotomy that must be fixed.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 09:10 PM
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What don’t you get about it’s illegal for non US citizens to vote in this country?


Voter suppression is far more wrong IMO and more prevalent, and affects legal voters.

Even if the story is true, which I highly doubt, that would be 2% of the electorate there, and since the GOP gerrymandered everything it's irrelevant.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 09:10 PM
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What don’t you get about it’s illegal for non US citizens to vote in this country?


Voter suppression is far more wrong IMO and more prevalent, and affects legal voters.

Even if the story is true, which I highly doubt, that would be 2% of the electorate there, and since the GOP gerrymandered everything it's irrelevant.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: CB328

Voter suppression is far more wrong IMO and more prevalent, and affects legal voters.



Can you justify that? I'm open to any real evidence that what you say is true.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Monday, February 26, 2018

More than 100,000 noncitizens are registered to vote in Pennsylvania alone, according to testimony submitted Monday in a lawsuit demanding the state come clean about the extent of its problems.

The Public Interest Legal Foundation, which has identified similar noncitizen voting problems in studies of Virginia and New Jersey, said Pennsylvania officials have admitted noncitizens have been registering and voting in the state “for decades.”

But state officials have stonewalled PILF requests for access to the data that could expose the problem, the group says in a lawsuit filed in federal court in Harrisburg.

“For months, Pennsylvania bureaucrats have concealed facts about noncitizens registering and voting — that ends today,” PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said.
...

Link

That's the real reason democrats want to defend illegal immigrants, and that's how Hillary got the popular vote. Several of us have pointed out how in several democrat cities the left have been allowing non-citizens including illegals to vote.

This comes at the same time that Rahm Emmanuel introduced an ID plan to give illegal immigrants a driver's license which would allow them to vote...


By John Byrne

Reporter Chicago Tribune

Municipal ID cards that Mayor Rahm Emanuel is launching for undocumented immigrants and others will be a valid form of identification for people both registering to vote and voting in Chicago, according to a letter aldermen received Friday.

Clerk Anna Valencia, who’s heading up the CityKey program, cited state election rules to explain why the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners will accept the card.
...

www.chicagotribune.com...

Democrats are the party of criminals resorting to allowing non-citizens, including illegal immigrants to vote in our elections.


No wonder democrats want to do anything in their power to stop deportations of those illegal immigrants who will vote democrat.




What is your solution for voter fraud then?

edit on 1-3-2018 by Brotherman because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: CB328



Trump needs to change the max penalty from one year to ten years for voting as a noncitizen.


Hoe about we lock up people for voter suppression instead, we could get rid of the entire GOP that way.


That’s real funny, I would very much like to suppress noncitizens from voting. However, encouraging people to violate the law is also a crime.



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