White House Says Trump Will Meet With 'Members Of The Video Game Industry' Next Week

a reply to: neo96

Well you said you liked "Mad Max".
Trump can't help cook up something like that?

My first game system was an Atari, and I've always had a console since then. I like to game. I had all kinds of violent games when I was younger, looking at you Mortal Kombat. You gotta admit, the graphics on these games today are very realistic. Just look at say GTA 3 vs GTA 5, even though there were really like 6 games in between them. The graphics in 3 are laughable by today's standards. 5 almost looks like you're playing a movie. The difference between this and a movie is, a movie you're clearly an observer, whereas in a game you're often encouraged to put yourself in the character's shoes. They are essentially your actions, and you are in control. Then you're tasked to perform violent acts, assault, torture, murder. Given how realistic they look, and the more personal level of engagement, if anything they should be regulated more than movies.

Now that doesn't mean you need a bunch of new restrictions on games. Maybe we just need to relax the restrictions on movies a bit. But to make it logically consistent, I think wherever we're at on movies, we need to be a tad more strict with games, for the reasons I noted above.

I by no means think video games drive people to commit murder, nor do I think books, movies, or any other form of media can. I don't think the developers and publishers should be held responsible even in cases where a murderer specifically cites a game or movie as influence. People are responsible for their own actions. However, I think it's hard to deny that for some people, there can be influence. The effect of desensitization to violence is acknowledged by some psychologists. Some say it has no impact. There is disagreement in the field on if and how much this effects people, especially young people. As long as there's disagreement and we don't know for sure that the effect is zero, isn't it something we should look at? I mean the past 2 weeks I've been hearing we need to look at every angle to see if there's more we can do.

a reply to: Templeton


Why though? I mean Nazis are awesome bad guys. Like hostile aliens, demons or zombies, you can kill as many as you like and never feel bad about yourself.

a reply to: RomeByFire

I think it has more to do with the impact violent games have on childrens behavioural development more than taking away your right to bear virtual arms. Yes I played with toy guns, watched looney tunes etc as a kid too, but some kids today play violent video games for hours everyday and studies do suggest that it has a negative impact on developing young minds.

At least the very serious problem of mass shootings are being discussed and something constructive is trying to be done about it, rather than people burying their heads in the sand.

Honestly, I think that violent video games are not to blame for gun violence. I play violent video games, and I don't even want to own a gun. It isn't about the violence for me, it is about the skill and goal-oriented gameplay.

a reply to: weirdguy


I found some statistics quickly on google.
In 2015 there were about 41+ millions kids in the US age 10-19
actforyouth.net...

Now factor in how many kids commit mass shootings a year. One or two maybe?
[2/41000000] * 100 is what percent of kids commit mass shootings a year?

You make it sound like the majority of kids are committing these crimes.

It's 0.00000487804 percent of kids in the US committing these crimes.

So you are honestly saying lets get rid of video games that portray violence because 0.000004 percent of kids might go nuts because of it?

a reply to: Deluxe

People like to make it sound like the majority of gun owners are doing it, too, but that doesn't stop some of the same people on this thread who are now super indignant.

I find this deliciously ironic.

a reply to: ketsuko

Yeah like gun owners are running around the streets shooting them up wild wild west style. Dead people everywhere. Chaos. Cars kill more people.

originally posted by: Deluxe
a reply to: ketsuko

Yeah like gun owners are running around the streets shooting them up wild wild west style. Dead people everywhere. Chaos. Cars kill more people.

That's just it. Some of those most upset about this will lead every gun control charge.

Me? I'll believe Trump is serious about something when there is a bill pending.

Right now, he's just exploring ideas to make everyone feel like they're being heard.

a reply to: Deluxe

I actually wrote "some" kids, not the majority like you are trying to suggest I said. you must support mass shootings of children, what a disgrace you are.

a reply to: weirdguy
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And i showed you that "some" was such a small percentage that you couldn't prove it was because of violent video games. Then in defense you accused me of supporting mass shooting of children. Nice argument.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I cut my teeth on Doom.

I can't wait to go to Mars!

First you'll have to survive Deimos and Phobos.............

Where Tipper Gore left off:

The challengers who were targets of censorship, music wise anyway:

The PMRC Hearing (Full) - Tipper Gore VS. Explicit Content. Feat Dee Snider, Zappa, Denver...


JELLO BIAFRA ON OPRAH WITH TIPPER GORE

The irony is rich seeing many of the grab the guns posters flipping out over video games and using ..... LOGIC in regards to why video games should be ok. For some reason, they can't do the same with guns.

I love me some gratuitous first person shooter violence.

However, I do think video games are a factor in desensitizing some impressionable youths. It isn't the games alone as these kids already have some wires crossed or a can short of six pack.

I am not going to say games need to be banned, but I do think we need to take a serious look at how they might be influencing some weak minded individuals who may be prone to mass shootings and other violence.

I also think music (particularly the cooning and buck dancing we call hip hop these days) is having a huge negative impact on behavior.

originally posted by: Edumakated
I also think music (particularly the cooning and buck dancing we call hip hop these days) is having a huge negative impact on behavior.

You really had to go there? You couldn't have made your point without using those deliberate terms, knowing full well what they mean?

Coon:
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The Coon Caricature: Blacks as Monkeys

Black Buck:
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: Edumakated
I also think music (particularly the cooning and buck dancing we call hip hop these days) is having a huge negative impact on behavior.

You really had to go there? You couldn't have made your point without using those deliberate terms, knowing full well what they mean?

Coon:
Description & History of the Coon Caricature
The Coon Caricature
The Coon Caricature: Blacks as Monkeys

Black Buck:
Black Buck

I just call it like I see it...

I always found it comical that black community is quick to call accomplished folks like Ben Carson, Cosby, Sowell, Steele, Riley and others who don't carry water for liberals Uncle Toms, Coons, etc but gives a pass to entertainers who are nothing more than glorified minstrel shows at this point.

originally posted by: Deluxe
a reply to: weirdguy
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And i showed you that "some" was such a small percentage that you couldn't prove it was because of violent video games. Then in defense you accused me of supporting mass shooting of children. Nice argument.

wow a bit of a drama queen arent you princess

originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: Abysha

I'm sure there's some combination of real guns, digital people, digital guns, and real people that result in real people being shot by real guns but I just can't figure it out. Video games and the rock and roll must be the cause somehow.

Ideas kill people.

Guns are just a tool.

Video games give people the ideas on how to kill people.

Then, some go out and get real guns to try out these ideas.

Games are a recreational activity people do for entertainment. With plots. Wanna know another recreational activity people do for entertainment? Hunting.

I don't condemn hunting but blaming video games where you are basically emulating a far-fetched, likely sci-fi movie while giving hunting a pass is just stupid.

If handing a kid a gun and telling him to go kill a real, living thing isn't causing these school shootings (which it isn't) then video games sure as hell won't, either.

I can't wait until they blame Cabella's Big Hunt games. Lol.

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: Abysha

I'm sure there's some combination of real guns, digital people, digital guns, and real people that result in real people being shot by real guns but I just can't figure it out. Video games and the rock and roll must be the cause somehow.

Ideas kill people.

Guns are just a tool.

Video games give people the ideas on how to kill people.

Then, some go out and get real guns to try out these ideas.

Well I've been ripped off.

I've been playing Assassin's Creed since 2007 and I'm still not anywhere near Altair or Ezio....

Thanks, Ubisoft! Your brainwashing and indoctrination doesn't work, damnit!

I played Root Beer Tapper and now I work at a bar.

Slippery slope, I tell ya.

If, according to Trumpian logique, the game industry is responsable for real-life massacres

Does this mean he'll be having a sit down wth porn industry leaders too, to crack down on sex crimes ?