Debunking Flat Earth and the Hollow Earth

a reply to: turbonium1

1000 mph.

Not 2000.

Pretty much an indicator of your grasp of the subject.

The entire planet appears to be an absolutely flat surface, no matter the angle, or altitude, or area, viewed.

Above the surface we cannot see a curvature, only a flat surface. The horizon is always level, no matter the altitude.

Is the horizon level at 5000 feet altitude, at 10000 feet altitude, at 40000 feet altitude? Yes, of course.


No curve.

a reply to: ErosA433

Lol, have you figured out the pendulum yet?

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: turbonium1

1000 mph.

Not 2000.

Pretty much an indicator of your grasp of the subject.

No, it's an indicator of your desperation.

A non-existent rotation, at half speed of nothing...sure...

a reply to: turbonium1

Nothing is as flat as a flat earthers head , you people don't understand anything regarding science, motion or scale.

originally posted by: turbonium1
The entire planet appears to be an absolutely flat surface, no matter the angle, or altitude, or area, viewed.

Above the surface we cannot see a curvature, only a flat surface. The horizon is always level, no matter the altitude.

Is the horizon level at 5000 feet altitude, at 10000 feet altitude, at 40000 feet altitude? Yes, of course.


No curve.

39,045 meters... or approx. 127,952 feet

a reply to: turbonium1

So all the other planets are spheres and Earth is flat care tò explain that.

You feel acceleration not speed have you ever flown you can walk to the toilet on a plane even if it's doing 500+ mph.

Have you ever seen a water drop curved water.

A flat Earther on youtube showing water running of an object is not proof they are correct they don't have an object weighing trillions of tons do they.

Even flat Earthers don't agree how their flat Earth would work yet with the globe Earth we can predict positions and times of events that fe's can't.

We have the Apollo images taken using Hasselblad film cameras showing g a globe fe's are just oxygen thieves.

An ascent is not flying level within air, as a descent is not flying level within air.

It does not matter what the surface below is, or is not, when a plane is ascending, or descending, within air.


As instruments measure level flight, in air.

Level fight has nothing to do with the surface below the plane being 'level', or not.

Level flight does not mean flying 'somewhat level' over a sphere. Level flight does not mean flying level over a flat surface, as well. Just as an ascent or a descent has nothing to do with the surface below the planes.

The only reason you suggest planes are flying 'level' to a sphere, which isn't even level to start with, is one of the worst 'answers' I've ever heard... sorry to say.

A level is not 'level, as based on a sphere. There is no 'level, as based on a sphere'.

originally posted by: turbonium1
An ascent is not flying level within air, as a descent is not flying level within air.

It does not matter what the surface below is, or is not, when a plane is ascending, or descending, within air.


As instruments measure level flight, in air.

Level fight has nothing to do with the surface below the plane being 'level', or not.

Level flight does not mean flying 'somewhat level' over a sphere. Level flight does not mean flying level over a flat surface, as well. Just as an ascent or a descent has nothing to do with the surface below the planes.

The only reason you suggest planes are flying 'level' to a sphere, which isn't even level to start with, is one of the worst 'answers' I've ever heard... sorry to say.

A level is not 'level, as based on a sphere. There is no 'level, as based on a sphere'.

Yeah...

but this was explained to you by an actual pilot in that other thread...

and a lot of people... in several other threads

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: turbonium1

So all the other planets are spheres and Earth is flat care tò explain that.

You feel acceleration not speed have you ever flown you can walk to the toilet on a plane even if it's doing 500+ mph.

Have you ever seen a water drop curved water.

A flat Earther on youtube showing water running of an object is not proof they are correct they don't have an object weighing trillions of tons do they.

Even flat Earthers don't agree how their flat Earth would work yet with the globe Earth we can predict positions and times of events that fe's can't.

We have the Apollo images taken using Hasselblad film cameras showing g a globe fe's are just oxygen thieves.

The planets are actually stars, not planets at all. Now seen in greater magnification, we know that they aren't at all 'planets'. Simply bright stars, and nothing more.


Another grandiose lie, which is caught, long afterward.

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: turbonium1

So all the other planets are spheres and Earth is flat care tò explain that.

You feel acceleration not speed have you ever flown you can walk to the toilet on a plane even if it's doing 500+ mph.

Have you ever seen a water drop curved water.

A flat Earther on youtube showing water running of an object is not proof they are correct they don't have an object weighing trillions of tons do they.

Even flat Earthers don't agree how their flat Earth would work yet with the globe Earth we can predict positions and times of events that fe's can't.

We have the Apollo images taken using Hasselblad film cameras showing g a globe fe's are just oxygen thieves.

The planets are actually stars, not planets at all. Now seen in greater magnification, we know that they aren't at all 'planets'. Simply bright stars, and nothing more.


Another grandiose lie, which is caught, long afterward.

No.

We know that they are planets, and we know they revolve around the sun in a predictable fashion.

We know that with a telescope you can see those planets and the moons around them.

We know that equatorial mounts for those telescopes work and allow you to track them across the sky, which they would not on a flat Earth.

We know that you are desperately scrabbling for the lamest possible explanations to underpin your ludicrous standpoint.

We know you are trolling.

a reply to: turbonium1

No...

They're planets that orbit our "star"

Thats why they fly across the sky as opposed to the actual stars we see in the constellations which barely move throughout the year...

And with a decent telescope, you can see them... even with binoculars at the right time

All water will either be level, or seek to be level.

Water doesn't change it's very property of seeking to be level, because greater amounts of water are found to exist compared to any other areas which have water on Earth!!


Apparently water does not seek to be level, in larger amounts of water. Only the largest amounts of water found on Earth, specifically. Just an ocean of water, and nothing less.

Oceans of water which magically curve around a sphere, while nobody can ever prove otherwise!!

Water behaves the same in ANY AMOUNTS.

You have no proof water can curve, and will never, ever, hope to prove such a laughable farce, as this!

a reply to: turbonium1

Notice...

the curvature of water in reality

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: turbonium1

No...

They're planets that orbit our "star"

Thats why they fly across the sky as opposed to the actual stars we see in the constellations which barely move throughout the year...

And with a decent telescope, you can see them... even with binoculars at the right time

Many videos show they are not planets, they are stars. Have a look and see for yourself.


Do you really believe spheres are shaped at random, all over?

How many Earth-bound natural objects are perfectly spherical, all formed randomly?

A grain of sand? Every grain of sand is round cannot have formed at random. A few would be round, and others would not be round. At random, many shapes would exist.


Countless rocks and boulders exist on Earth. And how many are perfectly round, among all those you've seen?

I've never seen a perfectly round rock, or boulder, in nature, formed at random. And you?


A perfect sphere is not naturally formed. It is formed through an intelligence. It is intended. Created. Almost without exception.


A perfect sphere is not random in nature. It is very, very rare.


The Sun and moon are not only perfect spheres. They are the exact same size. They are perfectly aligned together.


All at random, of course!!

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: turbonium1

Notice...

the curvature of water in reality

Water can form into round droplets, truly incredible!


Water does not stay round, though, it seeks to be level, as always.


You're suggesting water is curving around a ball. And stays curved around a ball.


Show me that, if you can. That's exactly what you're claiming water does.


So prove your claim...

originally posted by: turbonium1


Many videos show they are not planets, they are stars. Have a look and see for yourself.

I've ooked through my own telescope and seen bands on Jupiter and the Galilean moons. I knew where to look because software based on a heliocentric solar system told me exactly where it would be. I don't need some moron on youtube to prove anything to me. By all means post your videos proving otherwise.

The Sun and moon are not only perfect spheres.

They are not.

They are the exact same size.

They are not.

They are perfectly aligned together.

They are not.

All at random, of course!!

Nope, all perfectly explainable by existing laws of gravity that have been understood for centuries.

Weather maps always must show us how Earth is perfectly round, of course.


Alaska is so curved, unlike Canada. I can barely see what is there, because it forms into a little 'beanie' on top!

As the round Earth is topped by a little beanie, called Alaska, I'm quite sure!

Earth is so round, just look at it, folks!

If I'm in a helicopter, hovering in air for hours, stationary, the Earth should have rotated below me. It doesn't rotate, at all, however.

Apparently the atmosphere I'm hovering in for hours, stationary, can rotate me at 1000 mph, with the Earth below rotating, at the same exact speed, while I'm hovering for hours in place, stationary.


if a force holds the atmosphere to Earth, and rotates both at the same 1000 mph speed, and makes my helicopter rotate in the atmosphere as well, there has to be an opposite force to counter the rotation of it, or there cannot be an actual force in the first place. Any directional force must have an opposing force. It has no opposing force, though, which means it does not exist as an actual force, then.


You've already claimed this force is pulling objects down to Earth, and that an opposing force can lift us up from Earth, against that force pulling us down.

If the same force is rotating the planet at 1000 mph, with the atmosphere, then we should be able to OPPOSE that same force, same as we did before, going up against the force.


This is nonsense, simply idiotic excuses for idiots to believe in.

Gravity is nonsense. A force that pulls you down, with an opposing force. And when the force rotates Earth, and atmosphere, and every object within the atmosphere, it has no opposing force at all!


A magical force, indeed.