Pence: Legal [child murder] will end with this generation

a reply to: introvert

But one is not dependent upon the other, which was your argument.

Nope.

Because the 14th was specifically mentioned.

At the very beginning.

originally posted by: richapau
a reply to: JBurns

Abortion is necessary. We don't need more people.

Hitler has the same thought about Jews.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: snowspirit

A miscarriage is natural.

Im going to be honest here: what we call "morality" is simply a construct. There is no morality. There is nothing actually wrong with killing other things, and we tend to do it quite a bit (insecticide is more like "insect genocide").

That said, i value life. I value all life. It may only be because my own emotions tell me that this is what is moral. I don't know.

Murder is only wrong if you are human. The cat that just walked by outside wouldn't care at all if the guy across the street decided to murder me right now. The only beings that would care are other humans.

My dog would bite you if you tried to kill me.

a reply to: Lumenari

I think it's amazing that we have a section of America that sees murder as a personal freedom. Even Justice Harry Blackmun–the guy who gave us Roe v. Wade, conceded that a fetus is, in fact, a person. As such was protected under the 14th amendment.

Ok. Cool story.

The Constitution never mentions abortion. Still, Blackmun insisted it was protected under the “right of privacy.” Where’s that right laid out? Well, Blackmun himself admitted, “The Constitution does not explicitly mention any right of privacy.” That didn’t stop him from finding one.

Ok. Again, cool story.

I would point out that living within the framework of the Constitution is not, in fact, being pro-authoritarian. After all, we are supposed to be a nation of laws, not feelings.

I said no such thing. In fact, I posited that many who claim to be pro-freedom/constitution are not in fact.

And I would hope that we can at least all agree that being anti-murder isn't being pro-authoritarian. Although who knows, since now we have inanimate objects that are to blame for murder now, according to the same section of America. Thankfully, still the minority.

Do you support hunting?

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert

But one is not dependent upon the other, which was your argument.

Nope.

Because the 14th was specifically mentioned.

At the very beginning.

Yes, that was your argument. Did you not say that if a woman can have an abortion, we can bear any arms of our choosing?

One is not defendant upon the other. Your argument is absurd.

a reply to: introvert

Those that refuse to read that LAW.

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge

is absurd.

It doesn't pertain only to issues the left favors.

It covers every GD person in this country for every GD issue we talk about.

Has anyone got any ideas to help reduce abortions? Come on neo what would you bring in or are you just about guns and demonising women?.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert

Those that refuse to read that LAW.

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge

is absurd.

It doesn't pertain only to issues the left favors.

It covers every GD person in this country for every GD issue we talk about.

Sure, but my assertion still stand. One is not dependent upon the other, which was your argument.

a reply to: testingtesting

Should I?

Wasn't aware I was the sex police.

I'm still trying to catch up with the gun police.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert

Those that refuse to read that LAW.

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge

is absurd.

It doesn't pertain only to issues the left favors.

It covers every GD person in this country for every GD issue we talk about.

Sure, but my assertion still stand. One is not dependent upon the other, which was your argument.

No it wasn't.

Your twisting it that way.

As expected.

A woman's body is the only thing allowed to abort(miscarry) a fetus, If her brain, the actual thing assessing her ability to raise it makes the decision to abort it, she's a murderer.

In the old days they just drank tea.

a reply to: neo96

So you got no ideas how to reduce abortions....
Yup just here to hate on women's rights as I suspected.
Huge hypocrite tbh you only care about your own rights and keep on proving it.

a reply to: testingtesting

People should keep their flies closed?

Beyond that?

Maybe firearms should grow a private part that way 'liberals' will leave them alone.

a reply to: introvert

They do not view it as murder either.. it is a big joke..

If you thought your neighbor was gonna murder his kid tomorrow at 8am . You kick in the door and stop him. You do not go on a conspiracy site and complain. You take action.


They do too..

“They are murdering babies, but I’m still friends with all the women who have had abortions in my personal life..”

lol it is laughable.

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert

Those that refuse to read that LAW.

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge

is absurd.

It doesn't pertain only to issues the left favors.

It covers every GD person in this country for every GD issue we talk about.

Sure, but my assertion still stand. One is not dependent upon the other, which was your argument.

No it wasn't.

Your twisting it that way.

As expected.

I did no such thing. Here is what you posted:

IF a woman has the right to get an abortion.

We have the right to own a firearm of our choosing.

Your first post in this thread.

Our right to bear arms is not dependent upon or related to a woman's right to an abortion.

Amazing how uninformed you are on the constitution and use it to do your own twisting to make absurd assertions.

originally posted by: Woodcarver
A quote from Mike Pence

What the American people need is not more health care. What we need is more Jesus care. I believe the if we can just get more of these people with pre-existing health conditions back to churches you would see a lot of healings and many of these problems would just go away. People who lead Godly lives don’t worry about Doctors. We have The Lord to take care of us.

I don’t think he even knows what healthcare is?

Can you link that quote for me? (sorry if it already is, haven't read the whole thread yet)

I really do hope it's a joke. Jesus care?

Rarely do i post here, but when folks march on with their anti-abortion banners and scream bloody murder it really pisses me off. I'll fight every inch of the way against people with those archaic views. Now, abortions need to have good reasons for being carried out and done within a certain time window, but banning it altogether will solve NOTHING.

a reply to: introvert

All of it.

Yeah Your twisting it.

The 14 th is how that post began.

One way to fix this is just start paying mothers GOOD money to not have an abortion. There are so many people willing to give those babys a life .

I know we will have alot of women getting pregnant just for the money but isnt the kids all we care about anyway?

If they take the no abortion $$ they cant keep the kid. And have to have their tubes tied. No slipknots.

Nobody is going to get an abortion if that fetus is worth 100k

a reply to: Skeletonized

Scary tbh Pence is a nutjob.
Would love to know how he is going to force women to carry the child.

a reply to: neo96

So all the women who have had abortions are child murderers, then right??