Read the arrest report on the Florida shooting suspect

a reply to: Boadicea

In Peterson's statement he says that the security specialist Kelvin Greenleaf and himself exited building 100 and ran toward building 1200 and he took up a position. After that, he doesn't mention what Greenleaf did, only that he reported he thought the gunman was outside. Greenleaf must have been the person who called Peterson , according to the arrest report.

Also, he says he gave the keys to SWAT to unlock the doors and go in. How did Cruz get in, if doors were locked?

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: Boadicea

Also, he says he gave the keys to SWAT to unlock the doors and go in. How did Cruz get in, if doors were locked?

The article does say that, but it's not in quotes. Do you have a link to Peterson's actual statement? I'd like to see how he worded it. Even if the exterior doors were unlocked it would be a good idea to give them the keys to the building so they can access every room while clearing it. If he specifically says he gave them the keys so they could enter, that would be curious. Although it may simply be the case that some exterior doors were locked and some weren't, and SWAT wanted to be able to go in whichever way was most tactically sound.

a reply to: face23785

breaking911.com...

Mr. Peterson initially “received a call of firecrackers — and not gunfire — in the area of the 1200 Building.”

 In response to the firecracker call Mr. Peterson along “with Security Specialist Kelvin Greenleaf exited the 100 Building and ran north the couple of hundred yards to the 1200 Building.”

 Upon arriving at 1200 Building Mr. Peterson “heard gunshots but believed that those gunshots were originating from outside of any of the buildings on the school campus.”

 BSO trains its officers that in the event of outdoor gunfire one is to seek cover and assessthe situation in order to communicate what one observes to other law enforcement.

 Consistent with his training, Mr. Peterson “took up a tactical position between the 700-800 buildings corridor/corner.”  Mr. Peterson was the first BSO officer to advise BSO dispatch that he heard shots fired.

 Mr. Peterson “initiated a ‘Code Red’ lockdown of the entire school campus.”

 “The first police officer that arrived on-scene was from the Coral Springs Police Department.” Mr. Peterson informed this Coral Springs Police Officer that he “thought that the shots were coming from outside.” This Coral Springs Police Officer took up a tactical position (approximately twenty yards away from Mr. Peterson) behind a tree wit

 “Radio transmissions indicated that there was a gunshot victim in the area of the football field,” which served to confirm Mr. Peterson’s belief “that the shooter, or shooters, were outside.”

 Mr. Peterson had the presence of mind to have the school administrators go to the school’s video room to review the closed-circuit cameras to locate the shooter and the obtain a description for law enforcement.

 Mr. Peterson provided his keys to the Coral Springs SWAT team so that they could enter the 1200 Building.  Mr. Peterson “provided BSO SWAT Command with handwritten diagrams of the entire Stoneman Douglas campus for student evacuation.”

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: Boadicea

In Peterson's statement he says that the security specialist Kelvin Greenleaf and himself exited building 100...

I didn't see a specific building mentioned at my link. Are you referencing a different article? Or have you seen the statement in its entirety? I'd love to read the full statement.

...and ran toward building 1200 and he took up a position. After that, he doesn't mention what Greenleaf did, only that he reported he thought the gunman was outside.

No, he doesn't, and that's the first I've heard mention of him. I hope someone tracks him down and gets a statement from him -- whatever he's at liberty to say.

Greenleaf must have been the person who called Peterson , according to the arrest report.

That's what I'm thinking.

Also, he says he gave the keys to SWAT to unlock the doors and go in. How did Cruz get in, if doors were locked?

I've been thinking about that too. I've read so many differing reports about the locks. My best somewhat informed guess at this point is that when Cruz arrived the doors had just been unlocked for the impending departure of students and staff, so Cruz was able to enter the building with ease and prepare for the attack; when he pulled the fire alarm, then everyone started leaving the classrooms, Cruz started shooting; some folks ran back into classes and others ran out of the building; someone reported the shooting which generated the "Code Red" lockdown, and the doors were locked again. What I do not know is if they were automatically locked or if the teachers manually locked the doors.

In this scenario, it's reasonable to assume that by the time Peterson arrived 90 seconds later (according to the Sheriff), all the kids who managed to get out of the building were long gone. Peterson obviously believed that the doors to the building were locked, hence giving the police officers the keys.

I'm also wondering if the police officers had different -- better -- information than the deputies. The police officers seemed to know that the shooting took place inside that building, whereas Peterson did not.

Would Peterson mistake shooting inside the building for gunfire outside? Or was Peterson actually hearing gunfire outside the building at the same time there was gunfire inside the building?

originally posted by: CthulhuMythos

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: Boadicea

Some valid questions, for sure. Another interpretation of "shooting students that he saw in the hallways and on the school grounds" could mean hallways and classrooms. I agree with you that it sounds like it means outdoors but classrooms are also "school grounds". Maybe it was just poorly worded.

As far as the mask and helmet, if it were only one witness, it's possible he was hysterical. During moments of terror and assaults on your senses, people see things. It happens. Time gets funny, you might see people from your past, sounds don't always make sense, etc. If more than just the one teacher reports seeing a mask and helmet, I'd say it deserves a second look, though.

But so far I've yet to see one of these shootings where everything adds up neatly. Chaos is reflected in conflicting accounts and implausible aftermaths.

We can't expect nightmares to always make sense when we wake up, you know.

Looks like another teacher saw him and thought he was police due to wearing full tactical gear. Check vid here. news interview

Awesome, thank you for the update.

Ugh... I hate that these tragic things have to be interesting. But they always are.

The main perpetrators and organizers of the school shootings in Florida are EU feudal royalties who aim at neo-feudalism in the US and at organizing a future Canaidian-Mexican pincer invasion of the US. The Italian government is as usual also involved as with every previous shooting including at Columbine high-school.

One thing that really surprises me about EU royalties including the UK and main euro politicians, is their facade support of anti-NRA activists in the US. I really can't understand this. The EU-UK-NATO have infiltrated the NRA since the 70s and have step-by-step induced or instructed them to play defensively against gun grabbing freaks.

Their job is to bring the King back to the USA! They are royals ... what else could they be up to?

a reply to: Flanker86

The royals? I've never heard of them being involved before. I guess anything's possible though. There are power hungry (and evil) souls everywhere....

Pressure mounts on Broward Sheriff's office: Emergency Medical Service teams claim they were STOPPED from entering the Florida shooting school to try and rescue victims while teen gunman killed 17

The highlights (or low lights depending on how we look at it):

*Sources told Fox that EMS were blocked from entering the school the day of the Parkland School shooting
*High-ranking officials close to the law enforcement response said there was a delay in allowing people into the school to help the victims
*A source said the command not to enter came from the Broward sheriff's office
*Multiple sources said that instead of letting EMS enter victims were being brought out of the school to be treated, which is not standard protocol
*An EMS responder to the shooting said they told police they were willing to risk their lives but were told they could not enter the school
*Mike Moser, Chief of Fire Administration, said they couldn't enter because they didn't know where Cruz was and couldn't clear the scene

I know this is standard procedure -- to hold back EMTs until the threat is contained or stopped -- in at least some incidents. I'm not judging. Sometimes there are no good options and we can only choose what seems to be the best option.

ETA: I forgot to add this -- d'oh!

And three officials confirmed the response went against standard EMS training in which teams of highly trained doctors follow police into emergency situations.

'We're trained to go in behind the advanced team to engage the shooter. We're trained to get in behind them with a security contingent of law enforcement,' a high-ranking fire official said.

'It's my understanding that it didn't happen right away. There was a delay.'

I don't know why the sheriff's department didn't allow them in this time, but they may have good reason for it.

originally posted by: Boadicea
I saw a few comments around the web about a heavy black duffel bag being removed from the building and put into the back of a pickup by LEOs... I finally tracked it down. Presumably this is the perp's duffel bag. That bag looks pretty darn heavy.

This really looks more like the cop is carrying someone on his shoulder. He is almost staggering from the weight which if it was from carrying a bag would require a different stance.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

You could be right about that. I can't really tell exactly but it does seem that he's carrying something on his shoulder. But it sure looks awkward and it sure looks heavy.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
As I said, studies that have looked at mass shooters have concluded that they don't suffer from the socioeconomic disparities that other criminals tend to suffer from.

And yet mass shooters tend to be on quick-fix anti-psychotics, tend to have various psychological disorders - which as I mentioned, does correlate to being middle or lower class or a lack of access to healthcare. I'm betting that the 'studies' you're referring to are actually referring to the motivation rather than whether or not they were well off.



a reply to: Guyfriday
I hear ya man, and yeah the camera footage will not be released until its too late to do anything about it, or not released at all. Can't have facts getting in the way of narratives.

a reply to: EchoesInTime

It still doesn't actually quote his statement. I'd want to read exactly what he said because just a few word changes there totally changes the meaning.

"I gave them the keys" raises no questions to me, since there are undoubtedly locked doors inside the building SWAT will want to open so they can effectively search and clear the building.

"I gave them the keys so they could get inside" does raise questions, as some folks have already noted, about how the shooter was able to get inside if the exterior doors were locked.

a reply to: Boadicea

The Sheriff's days are numbered. What a piece of crap he is. Now a new video has surfaced where he is instructing officers not to attack but go on defense.

Esclusive video of Israel training officers

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: Boadicea

The Sheriff's days are numbered. What a piece of crap he is. Now a new video has surfaced where he is instructing officers not to attack but go on defense.

Esclusive video of Israel training officers

This goes against everything we've learned about the tactical strategy for active shooter situations. It's imperative to get someone inside ASAP to neutralize the shooter.

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: Boadicea

The Sheriff's days are numbered.

Good. They should be. I'm usually loathe to interfere with any official fairly elected by the people... but somehow I suspect there was nothing fair about his election. And he needs to go. I've been meaning to look up whether Broward County has a recall process.

What a piece of crap he is.

That about covers it.

Now a new video has surfaced where he is instructing officers not to attack but go on defense.
Esclusive video of Israel training officers

And then that rat publicly names and shames his deputy for doing supposedly exactly that? Oh what a %$^&(%^&!

Well, the truth is coming out. A Florida state legislator is saying that there is a lot of talk that there was a stand down order given: EXCLUSIVE — FL Speaker Richard Corcoran: ‘There Are Numerous Reports’ of a ‘Stand-Down Order’ to Deputies During School Shooting

a reply to: face23785

This goes against everything we've learned about the tactical strategy for active shooter situations. It's imperative to get someone inside ASAP to neutralize the shooter.

It's imperative to get someone safely inside as soon as possible. No one's saying "Oh, we'll just wait him out and get him safely when he exits... and just let him do what he will until then." (At least I hope not OMG! I haven't been able to watch the video yet).

In any emergency or crisis, taking the correct action is more important than taking any action. The wrong actions can make matters worse. And I can see many scenarios in which it would downright stupid to rush in... For example, if the shooter had set off tear gas or smoke bombs or something, it would be downright stupid to rush in without a mask.... especially because once the officer is incapacitated, he's now provided the shooter with another weapon and ammo. Same if the perp shoots the officer before the officer can shoot the perp. The officer isn't going to be shooting at him with kids in between, but the perp will sure as hell keep shooting at all of them.

There is, however, a big difference between one officer and four or more. That's when they need to quickly assess the situation, make a plan, and execute it -- as safely and as quickly as possible.

And in this case, I think the officers did have good reason to believe that there was shooting taking place outside the building even before the shooting inside the building began. There are still reports of a few dead bodies prior to the shooting in Bldg 1200 that are unexplained. I think that's important to remember when we consider and judge their actions -- or lack thereof.

But I still want to know the events before, during and after the shooting took place in Building 1200. I think the basic facts as we know them are true as far as they go, but most likely deliberately misleading, and there's a whole lot more to this. There are so many people with dirty hands in all of this.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: face23785

This goes against everything we've learned about the tactical strategy for active shooter situations. It's imperative to get someone inside ASAP to neutralize the shooter.

It's imperative to get someone safely inside as soon as possible. No one's saying "Oh, we'll just wait him out and get him safely when he exits... and just let him do what he will until then." (At least I hope not OMG! I haven't been able to watch the video yet).

In any emergency or crisis, taking the correct action is more important than taking any action. The wrong actions can make matters worse. And I can see many scenarios in which it would downright stupid to rush in... For example, if the shooter had set off tear gas or smoke bombs or something, it would be downright stupid to rush in without a mask.... especially because once the officer is incapacitated, he's now provided the shooter with another weapon and ammo. Same if the perp shoots the officer before the officer can shoot the perp. The officer isn't going to be shooting at him with kids in between, but the perp will sure as hell keep shooting at all of them.

There is, however, a big difference between one officer and four or more. That's when they need to quickly assess the situation, make a plan, and execute it -- as safely and as quickly as possible.

And in this case, I think the officers did have good reason to believe that there was shooting taking place outside the building even before the shooting inside the building began. There are still reports of a few dead bodies prior to the shooting in Bldg 1200 that are unexplained. I think that's important to remember when we consider and judge their actions -- or lack thereof.

But I still want to know the events before, during and after the shooting took place in Building 1200. I think the basic facts as we know them are true as far as they go, but most likely deliberately misleading, and there's a whole lot more to this. There are so many people with dirty hands in all of this.

Well of course there are scenarios where you couldn't just rush in with no regard for the situation. If he was shooting out the window at you and you had a 100 yard sprint to get to the door, you wouldn't be doing anyone any good by saying "It's my duty to get inside!" and running gung ho into a hail of gunfire.

a reply to: face23785

Exactly. I just wanted to be clear. I've read comments -- here and elsewhere -- that would have exactly that... sacrifice the officer just so it looks like something is done! How can he live with himself if he doesn't???

Right now, we don't have nearly enough information to understand what he knew and when he knew it, and we cannot even begin to adequately judge the situation. When all is said and done, we'll see where the chips fall.

originally posted by: Boadicea
Read the arrest report on the Florida shooting suspect

There are links to two formats at the above link -- one a pdf, and one text (but very difficult to read.) So I have transcribed the description part from the report for those who cannot view pdfs, and cannot or just don't want to wade through the messy text copy:

The defendant did commit Seventeen (17) Counts of First Degree Premeditated Murder in that the following occurred and the listed victim’s are deceased.
On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at approximately 2:23 p.m., multiple 911 calls were received advising of a shooting that was occurring at Stoneman Douglas High School located at 5901 Pine Island Road, Parkland. Upon clearing the school, responding units rendered aid to multiple shooting victims who were transported to multiple hospitals. Multiple deceased persons were also observed on scene. This incident will be reported under Broward Sheriff’s Office case number 17-1802-000525.
As units were responding to the scene, a description of the shooter was broadcast over the police radio. As a result of the chaos, multiple persons were fleeing the school. After the shooting, the shooter blended in with fleeing students and was able to elude arriving officers.
A sworn statement was obtained from witness (__________), who is employed as a Campus Monitor at Stoneman Douglas High School. (__________) stated that he observed Cruz, who he recognized as a former troubled student, arrive at the school in a small goldish colored vehicle. (__________) stated that Cruz was wearing a maroon shirt, black pants and a black hat. (__________) stated Cruz was carrying a black duffel bag and wearing a black back pack. (__________) stated that he radioed his co-worker to alert him that Cruz was walking purposefully toward the 1200 building.
(__________) stated that within a minute, he heard gunshots and called a “Code Red,” indicating an emergency on campus.
Approximately one hour later, a subject fitting the description of the shooter was contacted at the (__________) 4700 block of Windham Lakes Blvd South, Coral Springs by (__________) and identified as Nikolas Cruz, W/M, DOB 9/24/98. Witness (__________) responded to where Cruz had been located and positively identified Cruz as the person he observed entering the school prior to the shooting.
Contact was later made with witness (__________) who advised that she is an Uber driver and that she drove Cruz to Stoneman Douglas High School and dropped him off there. Arrangements for an Uber ride can only be made via the smart device software application.
It was later ascertained that Cruz was currently living at (__________) with the (__________) family. (__________), the head of the household, stated that Cruz’ parents were both deceased and that he allowed Cruz to live at his residence for the past few months. (__________) stated that Cruz has his own room inside his home.
An assault rifle was abandoned on scene. An ATF Gun Trace was performed and records show that the rifle had been purchased by Nikolas Cruz on February 2017. In a post Miranda statement, Cruz stated that he was the gunman who entered the school campus armed with a AR-15 and began shooting students that he saw in the hallways and on the school grounds. Cruz stated that he brought additional loaded magazines to the school campus and kept them hidden in a back pack until he got on campus to begin his assault.
Cruz also admitted that as students began to flee the campus on foot he decided a plan to discard the AR15 and vest with the additional magazines so he could blend into the crowd. Once the crime scene was secured the discarded AR15 rifle and vest with magazines was found in areas consistent with Cruz’s version of events.
The listed victims were the subjects found on the school campus who had been shot and were pronounced deceased or were victims found shot on the school campus and taken to North Broward Medical Center were they were pronounced deceased. The victims’ deaths were caused by the criminal act of Nikolas Cruz and the killings done with a premeditated design. Further, during the commission of the murders, Nikolas Cruz did actually possess and discharge a firearm, and as a result of the discharge, death was inflicted on the foregoing individuals.

A couple things to note: The "Campus Monitor" who first observed Cruz is NOT the School Resource Officer, Peterson. These are two different positions, and the Campus Monitor is NOT an LEO, whereas the School Resource Officer is an LEO. So it apparently was not Peterson who first saw Cruz, but the "co-worker" the Campus Monitor contacted after observing Cruz may be Peterson.

No information is given in this report about what Peterson and the other sheriff's deputies did or did not do.

I found it curious that the report referred to Cruz "shooting students that he saw in the hallways and on the school grounds," because I haven't heard of anyone shot outside of the building, but this seems to indicate that persons were shot outside. I'm not sure what to make of this.

Finally, I was surprised not to see any mention of a "helmet" or gas masks, as I specifically recall one witness -- a teacher -- reporting that he saw the shooter coming down the hall in a mask and helmet. Source

Anyone else notice any discrepancies or curiosities in the report?

Well I went to a high school with an outdoor courtyard in the middle of the building complex. The cafeteria opened up to it and it was a large area to eat lunch in outside.