CPAC exposes its racist underbelly for all to see.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

I do happen to think that Affirmative Action is wrong. A person's race, sexual orientation, religion, gender, etc., does not make them more or less deserving of a job.

I happen to agree with Thomas Sowell on this. When you institute preferential policies in an attempt to advantage one group, you always do it at the expense of other groups. And, when you do it, you will always be advantaging some much more than you intended and hurting others much more than you intended. This will inevitably create more imbalances or problems in your system that will create a need to be fixed. Politicians, of course, thrive on that which is why they use policies like Affirmative Action in the first place.

Most people simply aren't able to think beyond the simple A creates B thinking to see all of the unintended consequences down the road. They don't get to C, so they'll also never comprehend D or E or F, etc. This is why people are so easily led along. They don't see how they solution creates its own problems. To them, that problem is, thus, a brand new one.

a reply to: skunkape23

I can't even pronounce that, much less join...

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
But you do realize the people whom you all, allow to represent you, keep saying racist things.

I mean, we aren't making them say those things, they are things being said...But that was some racist sh.t right there.

“We elected Mike Steele as chairman because he was a black guy, that was the wrong thing to do.” According to those in the room at the time, the comment was met with audible gasps.

From the OP's source.

ETA: And it's racist because, the guy literally said, that he was ELECTED because of his RACE.

~Tenth

Tenth,
What if I said to you that for these people, race is deferential...as a means to an end.
Better still, I leave this link for everybody, since it gives great insight into these people doing what they do, for when and why, (CPAC, NRA and more are all afilliated to the organisation in the link) and of course why the current President does what he does, and bearing in mind this was written in mid 2016.

www.splcenter.org...

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: BlueJacket

when will you people learn thst calling people racists isnt going to win you any new adherents?

Never.

They think making ad homenims is a political platform.

It would be nice if they had real issues to run on instead of incessantly running around 'Shouting RACIST', thinking they win something.

Since when are we a nation that started viewing racism as a lesser offense when compared to pointing out that racism?

This is absolutely absurd how you guys have snowflaked your way into making it somehow offensive to point out that your being an asshole.

Real racism should be called out. But, I work in liberal social impact orgs. For every real case of racism or sexism people discuss, there are times it's not. It's way overused and now practically everything is "racist." If you can't see how social justice has gone extreme you either don't have enough real world experience with such folks and orgs or you are blinded by ideology.

Am I missing something? The same people who actually believe organizations should have quotas based on race, ie diversity programs, are claiming it's racist to have elected someone because they're black?

originally posted by: face23785
Am I missing something? The same people who actually believe organizations should have quotas based on race, ie diversity programs, are claiming it's racist to have elected someone because they're black?

When they do it, it's a virtue, but when others do it, it has to be tokenism?

Isn't it always interesting how stuff like that works out? It's all based on what they think the intentions are. They know theirs are good, so the exact same kind of action motivated on the same reason is a virtue. However, they know your motivation is bad, so the same action must be evil.

It is a staggering amount of cognitive dissonance.

a reply to: ketsuko

If they did it only because he is black and not his policies than the case could be made yes.

But I don't think you will find any dems that didn't agree with obamas policies .

a reply to: BlueJacket

Agreed.

Like with hillary/obama and the dems, right.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Let's all unite against all the -isms, so we can eliminate the threat Gingers have on our nation's souls.

This ginger holds all the souls and I will NEVER give them up!
Just try and make me!

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: tothetenthpower

Of course, I just went back and read what I typed, and I also recall how you were told that if you did not vote for Obama, it also proved you were racist.

Nice Catch-22, huh?

Nice republican propaganda you have there.
I never heard anyone tell me that.
I run in a lot of dem circles even though I am not one myself. I didn't end up voting at all when obama ran because I wanted ron paul to win. And it was clear that he would not. My dem friends never treated me differently for my decisions.

a reply to: UKTruth

The difference being google is not our government and doesn't have the power to write laws.

You can see how racism in one group can be worse for the country as a whole than racism in another group?
Not everything is equivalent.

a reply to: ketsuko

I do happen to think that Affirmative Action is wrong. A person's race, sexual orientation, religion, gender, etc., does not make them more or less deserving of a job.

Agreed.

But at the same time I want the business to be free from anyone telling them who they should or should not hire for any reason.
So if hobby lobby only wants to hire christians. I support that. If pizza hut doesn't want to hire mexicans . I support that to. If the cake shop down the road from me ONLY wants to hire gay people. I support that to. Let the free market decide. We all chose the places we shop and if hobby lobby goes under because of there hiring practice than so be it. Give power back to the boycott.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: ketsuko

I do happen to think that Affirmative Action is wrong. A person's race, sexual orientation, religion, gender, etc., does not make them more or less deserving of a job.

Agreed.

But at the same time I want the business to be free from anyone telling them who they should or should not hire for any reason.
So if hobby lobby only wants to hire christians. I support that. If pizza hut doesn't want to hire mexicans . I support that to. If the cake shop down the road from me ONLY wants to hire gay people. I support that to. Let the free market decide. We all chose the places we shop and if hobby lobby goes under because of there hiring practice than so be it. Give power back to the boycott.

This I agree with.
I think companies (or a person) should be allowed to be racist/sexist/homophobic - as long as they don't whine when they are shunned from society and their business goes under and their friends desert them.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

It was said in plenty of places. If you didn't run across it, then you weren't paying attention, and I am not talking about only right wing sources, but places like commentators on CNN or MSNBC or other mainstream press sources.

The implication was that if you didn't vote for him, it was less to do with your disagreement with his policies and more to do with your hangups over his race.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

Hire, serve, what have you ... if we are going to truly embrace a free market then that is what it would have to be.

If I want to have a bar that caters to only gay transvestite midgets, and the Pope comes in one day, then I ought to be able to freely refuse the Pope service because he's not my clientele.

Similarly, if I also only employ paraplegic narcoleptics, I ought to be under no pressure to hire anyone else.

I see, at least you want to openly racist and bigoted. So far nothing but straw mans and bbbbbbbut obama...... responses. I guess there is not a pre-prepared talking point available. So this is the best we get...

a reply to: ketsuko

originally posted by: soundguy
I see, at least you want to openly racist and bigoted. So far nothing but straw mans and bbbbbbbut obama...... responses. I guess there is not a pre-prepared talking point available. So this is the best we get...

a reply to: ketsuko

And if I am a veterinarian who practices on large animals, should I be forced to suddenly practice on a snake just because I am a veterinarian?

Should a cardiologist be compelled to take on a kidney patient?

I would hazard a guess that you would say no to this because you understand the concept of specialties.

But somehow, your concept of specialties seems to fall away when it comes to other areas of the economy. If someone wants to create a specialized service why is that wrong? It's up to the market to decide if it succeeds or fails. That's if we decide to truly embrace the free market.

It's nice for you to read all kinds of things into my statement though. If I created the hypothetical bar I mentioned above, my business only succeeds if there are enough of the clientele I have in mind who will support me and keep me profitable. Where you ride off the rails is in assuming that I would make a bar for ... say whites only and that there would be enough people who would support that in the economy to keep that bar open and running profitably.

Even were I so inclined to do such a thing ... do you honestly think there would be enough people who would both patronize the place openly and support it to keep me in business? Somehow, I doubt it. That isn't really the world we live in. The fact that even the most well-publicized white power events can only draw in a few hundred nationally ought to tell you that, and it ought to tell any aspiring businessman the same thing - you will very quickly have an "out of business" sign in your window.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: BlueJacket

when will you people learn thst calling people racists isnt going to win you any new adherents?

Never.

They think making ad homenims is a political platform.

It would be nice if they had real issues to run on instead of incessantly running around 'Shouting RACIST', thinking they win something.

Since when are we a nation that started viewing racism as a lesser offense when compared to pointing out that racism?

This is absolutely absurd how you guys have snowflaked your way into making it somehow offensive to point out that your being an asshole.

I agree with you and have watched how things swing back and forth. And yes the atmosphere is such that one cant even point out certain obvious infractions of positions.....for both sides play the game now and this will be the future of the thing. Overreaction to word use ect.

Remember that the one side doesn't mind talking like this when someone points out that we needed to elect a black president for this reason or that. Or when someone says it was the white swing vote that elected a black president ect or any number of related thought flows. And strange none of this is considered race politicking or racist.

All things considered....


It's obvious to me that the GOP just blew it with any hope of attracting minority voters. It's a matter of perception; and the perception is MAWA. Make America White Again...Trump could repair some of the damage, but I doubt if he will.

The dembs can't believe their good fortune. NOV 18 will tell the tale of what America will become.

a reply to: olaru12


This story even if well covered will have limited effect simply due to the fact that the air is full of stuff hitting the fan and already neck deep in the BS. Besides who didn't think Dude was a token anyway? You telling me that libs took it to hart and are now crushed by this revelation?