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originally posted by: watchitburn
originally posted by: intrptr
originally posted by: watchitburn
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: SaturnFX
I understand what you're saying, but there has and always will be symbols of ownership.
That other disease, ownership.
Used to confound Native Tribes about the white man.
He declared ownership of land. Planted flags, lol.
Not having flags didn't seem to stop them from attacking each other very much.
The firstEuropean settlers were saved from starving by the locals who came to their aid. Boy are they sorry. They should have exterminated them right off.
What does that have to do with the Native American tribes being at war with each other?
originally posted by: MysticPearl
originally posted by: intrptr
Who invented the idea of a flag anyway?
The most divisive icon ever devised.
Nothing but death and tragedy have resulted ever since.
Lets rally round our flag, and trash theirs.
Ban flags!!
They're so mean, up there on poles, waving in the wind, minding their own business.
What's the worst thing a flag every did to you? I remember one time my brother was waving one around and it hit me in the face and almost knocked my sunglasses off. Can you believe that?
Unbelievable I say.
originally posted by: watchitburn
originally posted by: intrptr
originally posted by: watchitburn
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: SaturnFX
I understand what you're saying, but there has and always will be symbols of ownership.
That other disease, ownership.
Used to confound Native Tribes about the white man.
He declared ownership of land. Planted flags, lol.
Not having flags didn't seem to stop them from attacking each other very much.
The firstEuropean settlers were saved from starving by the locals who came to their aid. Boy are they sorry. They should have exterminated them right off.
What does that have to do with the Native American tribes being at war with each other?
originally posted by: bulwarkz
originally posted by: watchitburn
originally posted by: intrptr
originally posted by: watchitburn
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: SaturnFX
I understand what you're saying, but there has and always will be symbols of ownership.
That other disease, ownership.
Used to confound Native Tribes about the white man.
He declared ownership of land. Planted flags, lol.
Not having flags didn't seem to stop them from attacking each other very much.
The first European settlers were saved from starving by the locals who came to their aid. Boy are they sorry. They should have exterminated them right off.
What does that have to do with the Native American tribes being at war with each other?
Oh, you guys are discussing that? All those tribes came to the usa from the canadian region. The American Indians came down in tribes and took the land from red headed people.
The Indians were very tribal and always fighting amongst themselves for land and resources. The Cherokee are a bit different. They are white with caucasion features. Share the same DNA as the Scottish.
Weird huh?
It was socialist in name only. It was far right wing on virtually every front, as actual historians and political scientists agree. Just shows you don't know which regimes were classified as which historically. Also, the Nazis eliminated all known leftists especially communists. Most of their propaganda said they were saving Germany and Europe from communism and leftism generally. Their soldiers believed that. Furthermore in the Spanish civil war they supported Franco the right wing dictator versus the leftists who opposed him.
originally posted by: pompel9
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
And?
She is no dumber than Americans who claim that Hitler was a left winger and that fascism is a left wing ideology. She is no dumber than Americans who think that universal health care is something Hitler invented.
Sarah Palin was a relevant politician in USA not so long ago for crying out loud!! This just shows how dumbed down some of you Americans are.
Where you from? Norwegia?
If he is from Norway, then he is the most stupid Norwegian in my country. Hitler was Left wing (extreme left wing). Nazi stands for National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei). Last time I checked, socialism is a left wing ideology.
While it's true that conceptually the intellectual end of the left acknowledges Scandinavia as having good systems, here in the US more than a few social justice folks project on to me as a blonde haired, blue eyed person of Viking descent. I think blondes trigger people more than dark haired people due to historic media representation. This goes back to these Norwegians. Many liberals and sjws in person react stronger to people who look like that, based on my personal exp.
originally posted by: JAY1980
The absolute irony is this supposedly educated person just assumed a Scandinavian was a racist hillbilly. I guess she never actually talked to her neighbour's. Because me thinks 2 seconds of interaction would have dispelled all her white nationalist fears only to show her that the neighbours belong to one of the only groups of white people on the planet who get a pass from leftists...
Scandinavians.
By collective default programming this "author" should be groveling at these Vikings feet. But her desire to virtue signal overrides all reational thinking. This is what a modern education does to people...
For some tribes maybe. At the same time, groups from the Sioux to the Aztecs practiced empire and efforts to achieve dominance over other tribes and lands. They also were willing to fight to keep lands.. One thing that has been proven definitively false by anthropology is the so called Edenic myth of some kind of unspoiled, natural, land peaceful paradise. Same with the "myth of the noble savage." Do not mistake this as apologism for European colonialism.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: SaturnFX
I understand what you're saying, but there has and always will be symbols of ownership.
That other disease, ownership.
Used to confound Native Tribes about the white man.
He declared ownership of land. Planted flags, lol.
One thing that has been proven definitively false by anthropology is the so called Edenic myth of some kind of unspoiled, natural, land peaceful paradise. Same with the "myth of the noble savage." Do not mistake this as apologism for European colonialism.
You are still operating from a noble savage perspective. The Aztecs were as bad and as brutal as any imperial force ever. So much so that multiple subject tribes joined Cortez in fighting them. That's the only reason he and his crew prevailed. The main difference across the Americas is the Europeans had more advanced tech and weapons, plus the diseases they brought which wiped out 90% of those that died. However, I abhor the colonialism they practiced and the fact that most native cultures were destroyed.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
One thing that has been proven definitively false by anthropology is the so called Edenic myth of some kind of unspoiled, natural, land peaceful paradise. Same with the "myth of the noble savage." Do not mistake this as apologism for European colonialism.
Nor confuse it with the treachery and murder perped by Europeans, once they got here. Their culture, paranoia, diseases, ethics, religious fervor, waging war, and genocide, made whatever Natives were doing look like a picnic.
You are still operating from a noble savage perspective. The Aztecs were as bad and as brutal as any imperial force ever.
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
It was socialist in name only. It was far right wing on virtually every front, as actual historians and political scientists agree. Just shows you don't know which regimes were classified as which historically. Also, the Nazis eliminated all known leftists especially communists. Most of their propaganda said they were saving Germany and Europe from communism and leftism generally. Their soldiers believed that. Furthermore in the Spanish civil war they supported Franco the right wing dictator versus the leftists who opposed him.
originally posted by: pompel9
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
And?
She is no dumber than Americans who claim that Hitler was a left winger and that fascism is a left wing ideology. She is no dumber than Americans who think that universal health care is something Hitler invented.
Sarah Palin was a relevant politician in USA not so long ago for crying out loud!! This just shows how dumbed down some of you Americans are.
Where you from? Norwegia?
If he is from Norway, then he is the most stupid Norwegian in my country. Hitler was Left wing (extreme left wing). Nazi stands for National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei). Last time I checked, socialism is a left wing ideology.
originally posted by: darkbake
The woman seems rational, she even pointed out that a story that could be derived from this piece is that she mistook a Norwegian flag for a Confederate flag - exactly what the O.P. thinks is the story. That would be a story about a hyper-sensitive political climate.
It looks like she was curious as to why the "Confederate" flag was flying in the neighborhood, as any good writer would be. I see that there are apparently Norwegian flags that routinely fly in the Seattle area, a fact she can be forgiven for missing, she even admitted she was wrong.
Let's not confuse her with irrational liberals, I've seen threads written about them on here. She made a simple mistake and admitted it.
so then most historians and political scientists are also in a fantasy world? Also, can you review the points I made and show how they were incorrect? Right wing is not defined by recent American republican redefinitions.
originally posted by: pompel9
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
It was socialist in name only. It was far right wing on virtually every front, as actual historians and political scientists agree. Just shows you don't know which regimes were classified as which historically. Also, the Nazis eliminated all known leftists especially communists. Most of their propaganda said they were saving Germany and Europe from communism and leftism generally. Their soldiers believed that. Furthermore in the Spanish civil war they supported Franco the right wing dictator versus the leftists who opposed him.
originally posted by: pompel9
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
And?
She is no dumber than Americans who claim that Hitler was a left winger and that fascism is a left wing ideology. She is no dumber than Americans who think that universal health care is something Hitler invented.
Sarah Palin was a relevant politician in USA not so long ago for crying out loud!! This just shows how dumbed down some of you Americans are.
Where you from? Norwegia?
If he is from Norway, then he is the most stupid Norwegian in my country. Hitler was Left wing (extreme left wing). Nazi stands for National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei). Last time I checked, socialism is a left wing ideology.
You can live in your fantasy world, Hitler was never a right winger no matter what you wish.