Special Counsel Mueller Charges Ex-Skadden Lawyer With Lying in Russia Inquiry

originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: angeldoll

Last weeks indictments have them scrambling, chasing their own tails trying to latch onto any semblance of hope for their derp fuhrer.

K~

LOL! Indicting 13 Russians for posting some anti-Hillary tweets, knowing full well that not a single one of them is ever going to face trial. Twitter posted a list of the Russian bots yesterday. It was quickly noticed that the top 50 tweets from the Russians shills collectively received less than 175,000 re-tweets. It's pathetic and laughable to think they had any effect at all. It's also insulting to Trump voters to suggest their dislike for Hillary is somehow the result of foreign trolls.

By the way, did you see that guy on the news show ask Podesta why the Russians were smart enough to focus on swing states, but he wasn't? Totally awesome. And 100% true. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania were in-play the entire election, but the Dems completely ignored them until about a week before election day (when it was too late to make much of a difference). And you'd better believe we noticed how they took us for granted.

originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: angeldoll

Last weeks indictments have them scrambling, chasing their own tails trying to latch onto any semblance of hope for their derp fuhrer.

K~

Until tomorrow, until we have the next scandal du jour.

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: angeldoll

Last weeks indictments have them scrambling, chasing their own tails trying to latch onto any semblance of hope for their derp fuhrer.

K~

Until tomorrow, until we have the next scandal du jour.

Nah, the next indictment du jour.

K~

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: angeldoll
Or maybe he's driving home the point that he won't be lied to during this investigations. If you do, there will be consequences, it's clear.

Oh, no doubt he is using small process crimes to create
a circus show on the international scene.

So far the people he's accused of lying, were, and have admitted to it, so he's not making frivolous allegations and charges.

We will see, it looks like Flynn is going to challenge
some of the evidence, so we have to wait and find out.

McCabe has been caught witholding evidence in the way
of interview forms used by the FBI known as 302's.

Disgraced FBI Agent Peter Strzok was caught and demoted
after his texts were found by The DOJ IG. His texts
revealed that McCabe and others were involved in
withholding evidence from Congress, and indicates
evidence was altered.

If Flynn was set up by McCabe, who is under a DOJ investigation
now....the whole case could end up thrown out.

Let the truth prevail! Too many 'what if's" at the moment to stray into a big conspiracy against DT. It looks like a legit investigation. It walks and talks like one too. We'll see if it quacks.

originally posted by: Hewhowaits
a reply to: burntheships

Not only that, we have Judge Sullivan reviewing the guilty plea from Flynn- which leads me to believe he suspects that Flynn plead guilty not because he's guilty, but because there is more to this story that has yet to be revealed.
People plead guilty all the time when they aren't - so why is it in this case that it's a nail in the coffin?

Right.

Something is definitely up with the Flynn plea.

Something about exculpatory evidence.

a reply to: angeldoll

Everyone is all for the Truth to get out.

We just want the Whole Truth, one
not obscured by a political vendetta.

In other words, lets look at the entire picture
and see who was really colluding with Russia, right?

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Hewhowaits
a reply to: burntheships

Not only that, we have Judge Sullivan reviewing the guilty plea from Flynn- which leads me to believe he suspects that Flynn plead guilty not because he's guilty, but because there is more to this story that has yet to be revealed.
People plead guilty all the time when they aren't - so why is it in this case that it's a nail in the coffin?

Right.

Something is definitely up with the Flynn plea.

Something about exculpatory evidence.

I suspect it might have to do with evidence that a certain high-ranking FBI agent falsified the FBI's notes about Flynn's interview.

Judge Orders Mueller to Provide Flynn’s Attorneys With 'Any Exculpatory Evidence'

A federal judge has issued an updated standing order in the case of U.S. v. Flynn, suggesting that Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team may have withheld exculpatory evidence in prosecuting former national security adviser Michael Flynn. Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, United States district judge for the District of Columbia, on Friday issued what is called the “Brady rule," which requires the prosecution to turn over "any exculpatory evidence" to the defendant in a criminal case, meaning Mueller must provide Flynn with all information that is favorable to his defense.

So the Flynn plea might be off the table.

originally posted by: angeldoll
Or maybe he's driving home the point that he won't be lied to during this investigations. If you do, there will be consequences, it's clear.

So far the people he's accused of lying, were, and have admitted to it, so he's not making frivolous allegations and charges.

They really don't see it do they, the strategy Mueller is using.

Just like when he was convicting mob families, Mueller is carefully creating the lines of attack that can be proven now, with the current intelligence at hand.

So every indictment every conviction moves him one step closer with the new intelligence he gains after each plea bargain.

Remember how they laughed when informed of the caliber of prosecutors Mueller was bringing to this investigation, one a specialist in flipping crime boss underlings.

Looks like his reputation is earned.

They fail to grasp the consequence of the Russia indictments, first it puts the kibosh to any further calls from the criminal republican hierarchy to end the investigation since it's bearing major fruit.

Second, the level of detail Mueller put in the indictments, down to internal call logs & e-mail missives lets everyone in this swamp know that Mueller has the goods on them.

Even the convictions for lying prove this, Mueller already knew who called who before he asked.

K~

originally posted by: aethertek

Even the convictions for lying prove this, Mueller already knew who called who before he asked.

And you think that is just neat and peachy keen eh?

Does it concern you that this is really an abuse of power?

Because it is. Even before Trump was president Obama
Administration was admonished and reprimanded by a FISA
judge for this same abuse.

www.scribd.com...

Due process is not quite dead yet, or is it?

The charge against van der Zwaan does not involve election meddling or the Trump campaign's operations.

It stems from the special counsel's investigation into a covert Washington lobbying campaign Manafort and Gates are accused of directing on behalf of pro-Russian Ukrainian interests.

Manafort and Gates have pleaded not guilty.

The law firm where van der Zwaan worked says it fired him last year and has been co-operating with authorities. Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP issued a statement Tuesday after news broke that van der Zwaan had been charged.

www.cbc.ca...

No one to date has been charged with electioneering, or
election meddling.

Just something to keep in mind during the madness.

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: Hewhowaits
a reply to: angeldoll

The nature, yes. Most people know the nature of this investigation.
However they don't realize it's not really an investigation per se: it's finding out how bad the Democrats are exposed, and making sure they have enough time to destroy the evidence.

Question. Why is it then, that Mueller, who is a republican, and selected by republicans and all the other people who are investigating these issues at the request of republicans, and who are mostly republicans, are trying to protect democrats? And in what universe does that make sense?

It's called #ty logic and manufacturing conspiracy in order to deflect.

You and I know that it makes no sense but these guys don't.

Kinda funny to watch, yet sad at the same time.

a reply to: burntheships
Don't commit treason with our enemy & your communication wont be monitored by FISA, easy peasy lemon squeezy.

K~

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: angeldoll

Everyone is all for the Truth to get out.

We just want the Whole Truth, one
not obscured by a political vendetta.

In other words, lets look at the entire picture
and see who was really colluding with Russia, right?

you don't want the truth, you want Trump to kiss Russia's ass and obey what Putin tells him to do.....you've already made up your mind, with your second sentence...and that will be the right-wing answer on this board no matter what....if trump is totally innocent, it'll be lock up every person that disagrees with trump...if he is guilty, it'll be because it was a political vendetta......KGB, now FSB, tradecraft at work.

originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: burntheships
Don't commit treason with our enemy & your communication wont be monitored by FISA, easy peasy lemon squeezy.

K~

please....logic free zone here....you'll confuse them

a reply to: jimmyx

I know, but I like watching them dance a jig.

K~

originally posted by: introvert

It's called #ty logic and manufacturing conspiracy in order to deflect.

Wow, all of that ******* logic has cost a lot of jobs
at the FBI and DOJ, and spurred several investigations.

Personally, I think the Trump hate has eroded
the minds of some of those who took it up, and they
are so desperate now they have abandoned
once dearly held ideals.

Well that is, unless they were socialists
and communists to begin with.

originally posted by: neo96

Don't forget now. The last administration DID pull some snip in Ukraine during all that shenanigans.

More on that:

Lawyers and Guns: Dirty Ukrainium Money in The US

Pinchuk especially nurtured good relations with former US President Bill Clinton by providing a donation to the Clinton Library and financially supporting the William J. Clinton Foundation’s programme to combat HIV/AIDs. Pinchuk’s wife, Elena, leads the work against the spread of AIDS inside Ukraine through the ANTIAIDS Elena Pinchuk Foundation. When Hillary Clinton was US secretary of state in 2009-2013, the Clinton Foundation received $8.6 million from the Pinchuk foundation (see also here). Pinchuk has also provided a large donation to the NGO Ukrainian-American Children of Chornobyl.

Also see here

www.lawcrossing.com...

Skadden is not only about mega-sized corporate deals. There have also been a number of high-profile litigation cases. Washington D.C. partner Robert Bennett served as President Clinton's attorney in the Paula Jones sexual harassment suit.

originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: burntheships
Don't commit treason with our enemy & your communication wont be monitored by FISA, easy peasy lemon squeezy.

K~

Seriously, you need to study up here.

Show me the "treason" charges ....LOL

a reply to: jimmyx

Your quite unhinged there.

Stuck a nerve, did I?