"There is no Trump-Russia collusion and the media should stop pushing this"

a reply to: kurthall

It is endgame, done deal.

Sorry, you lost and bet wrong, don't get mad us for your terrible lifes choices

a reply to: kurthall

If that's the case, then why bother to mention team Trump at all in the indictments today...? Why not leave them out of it entirely, like they did with every other indictment before this?

Hmm? Why would Mueller give his defense team evidence to use against their prosecution? Makes no sense. Can't charge someone with conspiracy when you ADMIT they didn't know they were conspirators.

Keep dreaming though.

Your narrative is dead and you know it. But keep being what Obama would call a BITTER CLINGER It suits you all nicely.

Apparently having a Putin stooge in the White House is no big deal.

He's been there for over a year.

What's the rush after all.

He was not Vindicated of the Russia investigation and Muller, your grasping... Did mueller say the investigation is over and trump is cleared? If so I'd like to see that.

originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: kurthall

It is endgame, done deal.

Sorry, you lost and bet wrong, don't get mad us for your terrible lifes choices

You literally have nothing to base that on. Where did Muller say the investigation is over and trump has been cleared? Alsoo the rest of trump's team has been cleared?


You people continue with the same rhetoric but you're gonna look stupid next week when the investigation is still going....

a reply to: kurthall

He's not going to say Trump's cleared. No. Very unusual/unlikely. And indictments only contain factual information about crimes, to the affirmative.

The fact team Trump/any American is specifically listed as not being involved in the conspiracy/illegal activity is very, very, VERY telling.

Please read the indictment and the USC definition of conspiracy.

Trump is clear. They don't make conclusions like that until all evidence is reviewed. Unless some new shocking evidence comes to light, Trump walks.

He won't be impeached. He won't be indicted. He will serve as the President for at least 3 more years, and as much as 7. That is reality, and you must learn to accept that.

originally posted by: kurthall

originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: kurthall

It is endgame, done deal.

Sorry, you lost and bet wrong, don't get mad us for your terrible lifes choices

You literally have nothing to base that on. Where did Muller say the investigation is over and trump has been cleared? Alsoo the rest of trump's team has been cleared?


You people continue with the same rhetoric but you're gonna look stupid next week when the investigation is still going....

Remember when these self same people swore October, November, Thanksgiving, Christmas then New Years would be the end.

Here it is February half gone & only the beginning of the indictments have been released.

K~

a reply to: JBurns

He won't be indicted. He will serve as the President for at least 3 more years, and as much as 7.

I hope so.

After all this crap for an entire year.

They deserve to lose to Trump AGAIN.

originally posted by: kurthall
He was not Vindicated of the Russia investigation and Muller, your grasping... Did mueller say the investigation is over and trump is cleared? If so I'd like to see that.

HAHAHA, this is rich. You want to hear it from Muellers mouth personally?

Let me guess, you prefer pictures in your books, easier to understand?

Fight the fight, till the absolute end, huh? If you must...

The fun thing is the Trump supporters treat this as something that has to be won. It's not an internal match between left and right.
It is a criminal investigation because another nation threatened the democracy and with that the sovereignity of the USA.

But that doesn't bother a single one of you allegedly patriotic citizens.
# America! Heil Trump!

a reply to: JBurns



How hard is this for you all to grasp.....No American associated with these NEW indictments yes even trump, had any idea they were dealing with Russians.....Okay clear, that means these 13 indictments no American citizen knowingly communicated with Russians....

This is only a PART of the way the Russians were meddling...This part of the investigation, no Americans were guilty.

On a completely DIFFERENT part of the investigation, that is where trump jr, Papadopolus , Flynn, Bannon, etc all come in. There are currently 2 indictments, that are out against trump camp over the RUSSIA investigation.

Is it that hard to understand there is allot of ways Russia has messed with us....There is also allot the FBI is investigating.

By the way, don't think trump ever signed the Russian sanctions that he got two weeks ago...Guess that is just a coincidence.

Also, this "nothing burger" of an investigation the POTUS called, has turned up 16 criminal indictments from Russia, and two from his camp....Let me ask you, is that REALLY a "Nothing Burger"??
Thank you to the FBI for protecting my Democracy! Have you though about thanking them, or do you enjoy Russians messing with the United States?

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: JBurns

Its not even news anymore, its infotainment pushing a false story line.

They have to keep doing it, all the little lies they told all down the line from the beginning all add up to one big lie.

I guess we need a bigger distraction. Collusion, Falcon Heavy, Russiagate didn't do it, neither did Shutdowns, school shootings, Trump tweets... what will they think of next.

I think it's bedtime for Bonzo...a cup of Bovril will sort him out.

Hillary Obama Comey Lynch colluded with Russia And accomplished nothing, but ruining their good names and reputations.

originally posted by: JBurns
There is no Trump-Russia collusion and the media should stop pushing this

thehill.com...

All of the breathless rumor-mongering, the briefings, the innuendo, all based on a fake dossier, has spun up the narrative of Trump-Russia collusion. Yet, there’s simply no "there" there, after more than 18 months of investigation.

It’s a house-of-cards narrative with no facts to support it. No matter how badly many on the political left want Trump’s “”collusion” to be true, it is desperately hard to turn fairytales into facts.

While many on the left cling to their sad dreams, more and more evidence is mounting that the real collusion was, in fact, between Democrats and Russia, involving the Obama administration and the Clinton campaign.

In banana republics, the party in power weaponizes the state against political opponents to stay in power. It’s becoming clearer by the day that Obama’s DOJ, FBI, State Department and even the CIA were weaponized against Trump.

With the thin excuse of the Steele dossier, it’s becoming far more believable that, instead of being for national security reasons, all of this was spun up for political reasons. One can argue that Trump the Outsider was an existential threat to the administrative state, and also to the justice and intelligence communities which, over the course of decades, have seemingly decided they are above the law and immune to congressional oversight.

What is equally shameful in all of this is the media’s complicity. It has acted as mouthpieces for lawless administrative-state actors and agents of Russian misinformation, by swallowing hook, line and sinker the dossier’s contents and running with that information.

It also apparently is completely disinterested, distinctly uncurious, as to what actually happened in 2016 with our government agencies. Many in the press apparently have no problem with partisan propaganda being used to destroy our civil liberties and Fourth Amendment rights. In their self-righteous crusade to bring down the “evil” Trump, the ends justify the means — so damn the inconvenient facts.

This behavior of the media is just as troubling as the behavior of the various governmental agencies. For there to be transparency and accountability in government, there has to be a free, honest and objective press, not one that is simply the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party and the administrative state.

Not to mention that today's indictments against 13 Russian nationals accused of defrauding the United States specifically states they had attempted to *contact* Trumps campaign under misleading and manipulative pretenses. It also states the Trump campaign was unaware they had communicated with individuals from Russia, who were posing as Americans using false identifications.

Time for the media to stop pushing this irresponsible narrative. At this point, the evidence more than suggests NO TRUMP "COLLUSION"

This is just. First mention of my ima

originally posted by: JBurns
There is no Trump-Russia collusion and the media should stop pushing this

thehill.com...

All of the breathless rumor-mongering, the briefings, the innuendo, all based on a fake dossier, has spun up the narrative of Trump-Russia collusion. Yet, there’s simply no "there" there, after more than 18 months of investigation.

It’s a house-of-cards narrative with no facts to support it. No matter how badly many on the political left want Trump’s “”collusion” to be true, it is desperately hard to turn fairytales into facts.

While many on the left cling to their sad dreams, more and more evidence is mounting that the real collusion was, in fact, between Democrats and Russia, involving the Obama administration and the Clinton campaign.

In banana republics, the party in power weaponizes the state against political opponents to stay in power. It’s becoming clearer by the day that Obama’s DOJ, FBI, State Department and even the CIA were weaponized against Trump.

With the thin excuse of the Steele dossier, it’s becoming far more believable that, instead of being for national security reasons, all of this was spun up for political reasons. One can argue that Trump the Outsider was an existential threat to the administrative state, and also to the justice and intelligence communities which, over the course of decades, have seemingly decided they are above the law and immune to congressional oversight.

What is equally shameful in all of this is the media’s complicity. It has acted as mouthpieces for lawless administrative-state actors and agents of Russian misinformation, by swallowing hook, line and sinker the dossier’s contents and running with that information.

It also apparently is completely disinterested, distinctly uncurious, as to what actually happened in 2016 with our government agencies. Many in the press apparently have no problem with partisan propaganda being used to destroy our civil liberties and Fourth Amendment rights. In their self-righteous crusade to bring down the “evil” Trump, the ends justify the means — so damn the inconvenient facts.

This behavior of the media is just as troubling as the behavior of the various governmental agencies. For there to be transparency and accountability in government, there has to be a free, honest and objective press, not one that is simply the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party and the administrative state.

Not to mention that today's indictments against 13 Russian nationals accused of defrauding the United States specifically states they had attempted to *contact* Trumps campaign under misleading and manipulative pretenses. It also states the Trump campaign was unaware they had communicated with individuals from Russia, who were posing as Americans using false identifications.

Time for the media to stop pushing this irresponsible narrative. At this point, the evidence more than suggests NO TRUMP "COLLUSION"

This is justa figment of my imagination..

“Good morning
Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.
Best
Rob Goldstone”

originally posted by: neo96
Never Trump,

Does Goebbels proud.

The Big Lie Gambit
Worked well in Germany once upon a time .Helped an evil despot remain in power and get his way.
Is this history trying to repeat itself ? Bring an evil despot into power ? And keep her there ?
Word to the people - it failed miserably.

a reply to: JBurns

Do you think they will stop?

The left has to now admit they were lied to. But that's not an easy thing to do when they've been repeating these lies over and over and over. Smugly and really in your face about it too.

They thought they knew something you didn't. And that made them feel like they were better than you.

So now they will start lying to themselves. I believe we will see levels off butthurt like never before. I wouldn't wanna be a trash can right now.

a reply to: Gothmog

Except in this case, the would-be tyrant is a political party hell-bent staying in power.

a reply to: aethertek

Give it a rest Bitter Clinger, it was the left pushing the false propaganda that Trump was going to fire Mueller.

You're projecting your own insecurities and inadequacies onto us.

Vindicated. Move on.

Or did you have something to dispute with what I wrote a bit ago? Or do I have to copy/paste it for you once again.

a reply to: rockintitz

Butt hurt is a perfect term to describe this I always used sour grapes myself,but that is even better

Judging by the sheer denial/deflection/desperation the bitter clingers are showing us here, I don't hold much hope for them coming through this with their sanity in tact.

Bitter Friday should be an annual holiday, in place of Valentine day