Being Evicted From 'Their' House when you are family , friend or partner? Here's what to do

a reply to: Iamonlyhuman

my advice is that you should not escalate the situation with legal sounding letters. Human nature will make them mad at her the longer she stays so she should leave as soon as possible. They have every right to want her out but they cannot make her leave without the law on their side (which is also their right).

The problem isn't leaving, the relationship is obviously over.

You cant just say, its my house, get out. Thats illegal. Thats what the OP is trying to state, there are procedures to evicting someone with 'residence status'.

a reply to: Iamonlyhuman

It is entirely a phantom case , it could be a man who has moved in a lady's house , finds out she 's not such a lady barfterall perhaps , and you know , he is single , buried his dad a while back , left alone in the world . He kind of fronts the truth a bit with her , and since he moved in last year , he kind of needs to , and then , he's paid his rent for the month but she phoned the police on a false charge, its all kicked and he is now on the lawn looking another bloke leering at his possision which are laid on upside down on the grass . And all that after 42 hr week driving job , and a night off down the pub .

Does he still get to live there , especially since he can't clear off he's got work at 7am . What does he do now ?

originally posted by: GeneralMayhem
a reply to: Atsbhct

No she shouldnt have to spend her money on any alternative : she gets 4 weeks , from the time she is served notice IN WRITING

Are you willing to risk her getting hurt because of a perceived legal requirement? That's like going through a green light on the road when you see someone running the red light. If you're dead, does it matter if you were right or not? I suppose you could put on her tombstone "she had a right to stay 4 weeks".

originally posted by: GeneralMayhem
a reply to: Iamonlyhuman

It is entirely a phantom case ,

Oh, lol, I feel better now.

The fact of the matter is not what the law says you can do but what you should do. If someone doesn't want you in their house, you should leave as soon as possible. Period.

a reply to: intrptr

That's right and on the contrary the matter of legality may cause (eventual) de-escalation . Of course , if the law frightens people you need to ask serious questions . Any variable may change at any given time : the law is a statute at the centre of all interactions .
The rule of law itself will always remain unchanged . It may be best rely on that fundamental attribute . Its written character also

a reply to: Iamonlyhuman

Dont forget must and will . The law defines all these , what can will must or should do . Without the law as fair guide we would be no-where as a society , we owe that to ancient theological insight initially .

It remains , every piece of legislation , just as relevant as the law, now as it ever was . Thus there is a good argument to uphold just laws in every case , no matter the circumstance .

4 weeks notice - that is a valued direction to sensibility as well

That's ok then . Its the personal stories you like really isn't it . that's fine , me too sometimes . Maybe I'll make up some more fictional scenarios in future

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She turned to her friend coming across the park and waved , with a friendly , "Hi , coffee time! ... God , I havent seen you since your holiday how was it , you're looking tanned babe" she was gushing because she loved Gina , she had been a great friend since the divorce .
Gina Edwards , her outgoing and outspoken blond confidant supreme , knew how to let her hair down , and understood Rachael's every need . She was a ballet dancer too and since she knew Rachels cousin at school in the Malverns , since old times, the three were in it for the long run .
"Oh wow they have grown in a month!" , Gina said , loud but not too loud , talking about Rachael's recent implants , and her rapidly growing up offspring at the same time . Meanwhile the cops had chased the robbers back to their chaperone and were shouting "what's the time Mr.Wolf ?"
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a reply to: GeneralMayhem

stay hydrated XD

a reply to: GeneralMayhem

stay hydrated XD

originally posted by: GeneralMayhem
If you could provide the comparison as we had yesterday that would be ideal

There isn't one that I am aware of.

or else , what does masonic convention give us on matters of tenancy or shelter ?

There isn't one.

a reply to: GeneralMayhem

That's right and on the contrary the matter of legality may cause (eventual) de-escalation .

Of course people that arbitrarily evict someone (even family) under the "Its my house " clause don't usually care about laws per se, unless it affects them. They may be good citizens, have all their affairs in order, but treat others with disdain, ignoring legal rights when it comes to others.

This is the most dangerous kind of person because they don't really care about you, other than how you can serve them.

Thats why when you moved in with them they didn't make any binding agreement or draw up a contract, so they could rule over you, so they could ignore any laws regarding you, in case they change their mind on a whim or for whatever menial, arbitrary reason.

"This belongs to me so I make the rules". Do what I say or you're out. These kind of people tend to take advantage of others less fortunate to exploit them for their ends. Lot of that going on in the world.

So yah a legal letter is a "shot" fired back in their direction, Maybe it will buy you a little more time, or create more havoc...

After all they aren't about obeying rules , etiquette or standards, unless they do it for themselves or to save face.

ETA:

In your scenario, writing a legal letter may have little effect. They may ignore it completely, still insist you leave, now. Then, if you follow up, it becomes a matter of filing small claims and they may not even show, be found in contempt, and still not care about that ether, for there is no legal recourse. Its a civil matter after all, not criminal. Now you are out a place to live, lawyers fees and small claims court fees, lost time, etc.

This 'Frenemy' will be laughing the harder, telling your sorry tale over beers with their jerk off friends in the bar. On more wreckage of the past on their list.

a reply to: intrptr

I so seldom agree with you,but in this case i certainly do.There is nothing as iniquitous as a person who would on a whim see another out on the streets.

a reply to: Raxoxane

"Iniquitous" is to gentile a term for that.

a reply to: GeneralMayhem

Was the "girl friend's" address changed to the new address?

The "girlfriend" has certain rights to the present address and can't be thrown out on the street without a formal eviction (at least in Michigan).

I would not leave, call the police. They will make it abundantly clear that no-one will be thrown out. I have had many leases and I can't just throw anyone out-I have to have cause. That is why my lease is very very particular on tenancy.

It sounds like this is an informal situation, but if that is the "girl friends" main place residency she has rights.

originally posted by: GeneralMayhem
a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

without any contractual rights one would assume.

That's the bit you got wrong , the mistake they... want to make . You dont need a contract or any rent paid or anything else except you and your your possessions in a property to be a residential occupier , because of the fact there _is an owner and overseer of it : the Landlord , and he is the one subject to adherrence to the laws of

The Protection From Eviction Act 1977

And other applicable laws , that is who the burden of responsibilty lays with , part of the joys of ownering land

Thus have it clear in your mind


Put it clear in their minds : pen and paper , black and white , with underlines

So,you are saying that anytime you invite someone to your residence and they bring some personal property, you can not tell them to leave if they don't want to? That could make for millions of interesting situations.

originally posted by: MteWamp
Or you could just not date assholes in the first place.

But what if SHE was the bitch? Why does the guy ALWAYS get the blame?????

a reply to: GeneralMayhem

They could just call the police on you and tell them you have a drug problem and that they don't feel safe in their own house. Your co called "civil rights" aren't going to do you much good, when your being forcibly removed by the police anyway...

Either way, for the sake of your own dignity, if someone doesn't want you in there home anymore, you should just get your stuff and leave... ASAP. Just head to the nearest cheap motel and work it out from their.

a reply to: GeneralMayhem

If you: lived there for over 30 days, established in that period or before moving in, the rent contributions and expenses (or lack there of needed to stay), you get mail there, or have paid up any temporary stay period into a future date.

You can stay, depending on your state, for a period of 2 -4 weeks until you have things in order.

No civilized person needs to be kicked out like they have the plague.

If your state defines you as a hold over or not is the question.

If you are a guest and were asked to leave, then you must.

Speak and find a middle ground. Perhaps he can give you a grace period until you find a place if you keep paying up a week at a time. Who knows. Talk and find out maybe.

Good luck.

a reply to: GeneralMayhem

For those who don't know... at least in my state.. If you move in, and even if you've never paid rent you cannot be evicted before 30 days after written notice..

I had this issue with this girl who moved in with me. The cops told me all the rules, of course she sabotaged all that when the state put a restraining order on her so she had to move out since she wasn't allowed around me..

No matter where you are if you live there (toothbrush clothes bed) you can't be forced to leave until after 30 days. It's only fair somone gets time to figure things out.

It would have been very uncomfortable in my house but I wouldn't force her to leave until she figured her # out. Of course she put herself out once she was out of jail only allowed to get her belongings with police escort.