Scientists warn of unusually cold Sun: Will we face another ice age?

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: seasonal

unlike the settled science of global warming or newly coined climate change.

They started saying "climate change" because the concept of global warming and its effects are confusing to the simple-minded who say things like... "we just had the coldest winter on record, so much for global warming".

Really.

I thought the left changed to climate change (from global warming) to incorporate any and all weather that by it's definition is unpredictable and makes people wonder what is going on.

Climate change is nothing more than capitalism taking advantage of simple theories and simple minds.


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Ok green house deniers you win lol
facts are facts we just dont know going by this study colder going by the other warmer
so guess on average it will be average temps lol .

BUT having Said that This does NOT change teh fact Humans need to stop !!! polluting our planet .
the water is undrinkable in many places the air darn near Breathable the oceans over fished to teh point many many species are on the verge of endangered .

The land forest stripped slash and burned or Worse doing what we in the states do clear cut plant and plant sugar pines a major fire hazard and a desert under them as they produce almost nothing for large animals .
Just because some ares are green with trees does not mean it hunky dory as a forest takes many kinds of trees together to support a good animal population .

For fact I have never push teh green house thing anyway its the environment collapse that can and will happen taht will be humans real down fall .

originally posted by: Thirty6BelowZero

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Thirty6BelowZero

Did you actually read the article....thats where I got 2050 from.

It seems like the OP strokes your confirmation bias and you are blindly defending it.

Yes, and I didn't say anything about 2050.

To quote the article:

A study by the University of California San Diego has claimed that by 2050, the Sun is expected to become cool. You might think "what's the big deal," but remember that this means the solar activities that create the heat of the Sun to sustain life on Earth may diminish. And the last time it happened was in the 17th Century, when the Thames River froze. Scientists call this the "Maunder Minimum".

Are you sure you read the article?

a reply to: midnightstar



The most newly polluted places are the 3rd worlds where corps have latched onto cheap slave-ish labor and little to no environmental regs.
This is hidden by the 6 HUGE corps that own the media. The media can't do it's job when they are owned by the same corp that owns the polluters.

BUT having Said that This does NOT change teh fact Humans need to stop !!! polluting our planet .
the water is undrinkable in many places the air darn near Breathable the oceans over fished to teh point many many species are on the verge of endangered .

a reply to: seasonal

Lets hope the people who control the energy will make it free by then otherwise we'll all freeze to death.

a reply to: carpooler


Yeah it has been going on for awhile now lol since the last out of the trees woods and caves from a mass extinction event... we've carried all the same sort of hocus pocus here's your focus with us since. When we finally realize that all we do now has always gone on... is when we can finally catch a breath and step back from it.

In such a manner cooling sun or the part not mentioned? It will still be there doing what it does no matter what we conceptually call it or think about it... as it always has even before we've even been aware of it on the ol' "blue marble" as Sagan was fond of calling it.

Hey, this is neat.

If the sun is going to try to cool us down, at least, we now know how to induce global warming on our own.

We can avoid the coming ice age, if everybody would drive more, and put "Freon" back in all refrigerators.

Problem solved!

a reply to: AMPTAH

If you subscribe to the present theory of climate change.

Well, if the sun goes cold right when we raise our temp past habitable levels, then I'll rethink this whole higher purpose/sentience idea.

originally posted by: seasonal
A study out of California saying global warming, the usual pith cast as the danger to the children, maybe the exact opposite. Yes the study is from California (bye bye grant $$) and cold could be the new catastrophe.

A study by the University of California San Diego has claimed that by 2050, the Sun is expected to become cool. You might think "what's the big deal," but remember that this means the solar activities that create the heat of the Sun to sustain life on Earth may diminish. And the last time it happened was in the 17th Century, when the Thames River froze. Scientists call this the "Maunder Minimum".

Physicist Dan Lubin and his global warming denying team's study finds that the sun may very well dim (again) and cool the earth. The sun is expected to dim to a "grand minimum". Much dimmer than in the 17th century.

Physicist Dan Lubin at the university and his team studied the past event and concluded that were are in for a worse case. The Sun is expected to get much dimmer than last time and, in scientific terms, it is a "grand minimum" -- a time period in the 11-year solar cycle when the solar activities are at the lowest point. at the university and his team studied the past event and concluded that were are in for a worse case. The Sun is expected to get much dimmer than last time and, in scientific terms, it is a "grand minimum" -- a time period in the 11-year solar cycle when the solar activities are at the lowest point.

www.ibtimes.co.in...

Unlike the 100% accuracy of the global warming science that we all know is beyond reproach, predicting a solar minimum is a challenge. (there is some sarcasm)

However, predicting a solar minimum or maximum is a challenge to scientists because of the non-linear characteristic of solar activities that happens every day. During a minimum cycle, though solar cycles still occur, the intensity is very low, while during a maximum cycle, solar flares go up and sun spews out billion-ton clouds of electrified gas into space. These two extremes can bring about some major global and regional climate changes.

With the current tech, I believe we will be growing our spinach in vertical gardens and our meat will be printed. That is a major energy savings, and keeping the "eaters" bellies full ensures that the real owners are safe and sound to continue their honorable quests. Also keeping warm maybe the challenge. But I would imagine the "new" farming tech will more than make up for the increase demand for energy for heat.


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Bit of a problem with this idea: The Maunder Minimum Is Dead - Didn't Affect Earth's Climate.

a reply to: Greven

Contentious issue? Hardly solid evidence.

This trend has led some to conclude that the Sun has played a significant role in modern climate change. However, a discrepancy between two parallel series of sunspot number counts has been a contentious issue among scientists for some time.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: AMPTAH

If you subscribe to the present theory of climate change.

Well, we could also dig holes in the ground, and go live in tunnels near the earth's core where it's nice and toasty.

a reply to: AMPTAH

No we could not dig tunnels close to the earths core, we can't dig that deep.

The politicization of climate change is the problem. It was politicized to make $$$.

I could have sworn we already knew the sun does this cooling deal as a relatively regular cycle. I think they called the last notable one... oh such a toughie, what was it? Oh, the Maunder Minimum. AKA right smack in the midst of the Little Ice Age.

There was also, to a less chilly extent, the Sporer Minimum, and the Dalton Minimum.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: AMPTAH

No we could not dig tunnels close to the earths core, we can't dig that deep.

The politicization of climate change is the problem. It was politicized to make $$$.

Pfft, give the Japanese time, they're gunning for a borehole to the mantle. Not exactly the core, but if anyone could figure that heat & pressure problem out, they'd do it.

a reply to: Nyiah

Tunnels not = to boreholes.

But if we can borehole to very warm temps we can have very very efficient geothermal energy. Zero emissions.

a reply to: Nyiah


Pretty sure the pirates beat them to it on Oak Island...

This seems to have taken off, sorry for not reading beyond the OP...

But about the sun getting colder...

lol

Every year the Earths elliptic orbit takes it further from the Sun, well call this winter. How colder is that, every year?

More extreme weather gibberish.

a reply to: intrptr

Um, actually the Earth is closer to the Sun during winter in the Northern Hemisphere than it is during summer.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Greven

Contentious issue? Hardly solid evidence.

This trend has led some to conclude that the Sun has played a significant role in modern climate change. However, a discrepancy between two parallel series of sunspot number counts has been a contentious issue among scientists for some time.

The Maunder Minimum happened to be near when the Little Ice Age occurred. However, the time periods do not exactly correlate.

The two have long been roughly correlated, but correlation is not causation.