FISA ‘Info Suggests Documents Catastrophically Bad For Dems’: Adam Schiff Leaks Dry Up

a reply to: JBurns

The shill brigade has arrived. Good that means they are scared. They are so predictable i almost pity them well almost.

originally posted by: DanteGaland

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: spiritualzombie
Russia this, Russia that....

They need to get a new byline.. Luckily, we have THE MEMO AND FISA WARRANT

Desperate for fake news, are you? The Russian collusion getting to be too much in your peripheral? Lol reality is a pain sometimes.

No KIDDING...

When known Russian government Twitter accounts are PUSHING this "memo" story....you have to wonder why Russia is so SUPPORTIVE of Nunes...

They don't CARE!

Russia is not their enemy. Hillary and Obama are the enemy.

Russia is their friend, Putin is a "good leader" who hates Dems too, because reasons.

The quicker we realize that none of these people care if Trump is a Russian agent but believe a fulfilling life is dependent upon seeing Obama investigated and Hillary investigated (again), so this is making them orgasmic, even though it's truly "propoganda" as only the Russians can do it, the masters of State Media, of controlling their message, of the big lie.

It's a very dangerous time for the country, but keep in mind that well over 60% of the country isn't fooled and never will be. Trump's never broken above that 40% line, and won't.

Trump also has a distraction, he has to somehow tell his wife why his lawyers are running around the country paying off porn stars to be quiet. WE have to worry what he is "paying" Putin and the Russians to remain quiet.

a reply to: Perfectenemy

They are just going to dig in. Repubs need to get smarter about the information war we are actively fighting. They weaponize this paranoid BS, but their real evil is truly convincing those who espouse it.

We are seeing weaponized hate, weaponized information and dirty politics coalesce into the face of the new far-left. Those vectoring these information weapons are direct albeit unwitting participants in this effort. No amount of logical reason seems to get through (ie: where is all the evidence they always mention? Not one of them can answer it)

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: JBurns

The shill brigade has arrived. Good that means they are scared. They are so predictable i almost pity them well almost.

Scared for the country that people are so susceptible to the obvious, but no - actually this has been a very good two weeks for the Russian investigation.

Put it this way, given the evidence that has come out, I will gladly exchange absolutely everything in the last couple weeks with whatever the hell it is you think you have (I don't know what it is now, I just know Nunes was caught once already creating a false report and reporting it falsely, and thus is supposed to have conflicted himself out of the Russia investigation, I guess his word isn't good on that, either).

But, take your report. It means nothing. The evidence will come out from Flynn, Bannon, Cambridge's records, Mercer, and eventually Kushner.

Other than investigate a real crime in real time, Obama did nothing. And newsflash, investigate crimes against the United States is what [MOST] presidents do.

a reply to: Scrubdog

Obama did nothing. Wow. Thanks for the laugh. You are funny i give you that.

a reply to: Scrubdog

You're putting a bunch of false words and ideas out there. Point in fact, no one made any of the above statements/claims.

We don't care because we know they aren't "Russian bots." Just as the left was quick to label everyone in Charolettsville as alt-right, when 90%+ were actually religious rights activists.

Once again, this is part of the effort. Mass-generalization. Mass-hysteria. You are acting as though there is some impending threat that we are just idly watching slip by.

There is no threat from any Russia-info BS. They do it 24/7/365, just as 100 other countries do to us daily. It is standard operating procedure for national intelligence agencies to do this, including influencing public opinion to affect their foreign and domestic policy. This is no different than lobby groups or DC foreign interests, it is just conducted via different means (but arguably both dishonest).

The US also does this to virtually every single country, in fact we engage in "regime change" (aka coup) against any country we feel like.

Their effort to tie this into Trump is absolutely ludicrous. Which is precisely why no evidence has been produced implicating him in any wrong-doing. No evidence has been produced implicating "Russia" in any DNC attack either, and I respectfully challenge you to produce otherwise.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Perfectenemy

They are just going to dig in. Repubs need to get smarter about the information war we are actively fighting. They weaponize this paranoid BS, but their real evil is truly convincing those who espouse it.

We are seeing weaponized hate, weaponized information and dirty politics coalesce into the face of the new far-left. Those vectoring these information weapons are direct albeit unwitting participants in this effort. No amount of logical reason seems to get through (ie: where is all the evidence they always mention? Not one of them can answer it)

Says the people that spent 8 years hating Obama so bad they needed a 9th like heroin.

And, says the people who investigated the living hell out of the ONE supposed scandal the entire time.

Where is all the evidence?? You expect it to be in OUR hands?? And every single time one of us points you to the news talking about it, you just yell FAKE and run.

The "evidence" is in the testimony of the people in and around the Cambridge Analytica spoke in the wheel. You will watch Kush, Flynn and Bannon spare themselves years of prison time by explaining what happened.

Furthermore there's a damn email in Jr's own name spelling out just one meeting, Kushner trying to set up his illegal backdoor, and the 10,000 or so Russian contacts people in the administration all "forgot" to mention on their security clearances and hearings. That's what we have publicly available, and none of it means anything to you.

Party over country, Putin over Dems.

So long as Hillary is investigated, you don't care if Trump's controlled by Russians and used Russians to help win an election.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Scrubdog

You're putting a bunch of false words and ideas out there. Point in fact, no one made any of the above statements/claims.

We don't care because we know they aren't "Russian bots." Just as the left was quick to label everyone in Charolettsville as alt-right, when 90%+ were actually religious rights activists.

Once again, this is part of the effort. Mass-generalization. Mass-hysteria. You are acting as though there is some impending threat that we are just idly watching slip by.

There is no threat from any Russia-info BS. They do it 24/7/365, just as 100 other countries do to us daily. It is standard operating procedure for national intelligence agencies to do this, including influencing public opinion to affect their foreign and domestic policy. This is no different than lobby groups or DC foreign interests, it is just conducted via different means (but arguably both dishonest).

The US also does this to virtually every single country, in fact we engage in "regime change" (aka coup) against any country we feel like.

Their effort to tie this into Trump is absolutely ludicrous. Which is precisely why no evidence has been produced implicating him in any wrong-doing. No evidence has been produced implicating "Russia" in any DNC attack either, and I challenge you to produce otherwise.

Yes. There is a huge threat from Russia. It is literally everywhere so it does get talked about a lot. As it should be.

The fact that you deny there were Russian bots is the perfect framing of the problem, thank you. Can I do a winger move?

"Where's your source for that??"

When we say the New York Times, or some testimony in the investigation, you declare it fake.

You'll cite Fox or some RW hack.

On it goes, rinse, repeat.

It'd be no big deal if you promised to fairly evaluate whatever evidence Mueller produces, that's all, just evaluate it as an adult would.

If you do that?

I have no complaints at all, scream away about Hillary and Obama, do what you need. Your boy owns the DOJ. If those people did something criminal, I am just positive that they will be brought to justice. My prediction is Fox will talk about it breathlessly so long as the Russian investigation happens, but no move is made to indict anyone, nor issue warrants for anything, nor any congressional hearings, those will always be right around the corner.

As soon as the Russia investigation is over, good or bad, all that will go away, because it had served its purpose. Just like Benghazi went away the moment Trump was elected. The House had cleared Hillary the year before, but kept talking about it. It sevved its purpose, and this will, too.

Know why you're not talking about Hillarys emails right now?? They do nothing to make you think the Russia stuff isn't real. They needed a new distraction to get you frothing and avoiding Trump's culpability.

yet you don't see it.

But we're "blinded by hate" according to the other poster.

bye, comrades. Which one of you is based in Moscow with Russian intel to make sure the "No-Matter-The-Evidence" Trumpers are focusing on the right shiny object???

Who knows, their english is getting much better.

The last couple of pages have me cringing as I read through the asinine replies.

People still believe in Russian/Trump collusion??? I mean, What?!?! Even top democrats admit there is no evidence. Its been 18 months!!! And the kicker, collusion isn't even a crime.

I'm embarrassed for you.

Wake the f*ck up!

originally posted by: Greven

Feinstein's release wasn't classified information as far as I know. The memo is alleged to be.

It's not that they don't want to release it, it's that they by law cannot until it is declassified.

I was waiting for someone to bite.

The Memo is classified because it is based in truth upon
classified documents from the FBI and DOJ.

And yes, it can be released with a few redactions.

a reply to: Perfectenemy

Of course not, he's a Democrat. Democrats never do wrong.

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Greven

Feinstein's release wasn't classified information as far as I know. The memo is alleged to be.

It's not that they don't want to release it, it's that they by law cannot until it is declassified.

I was waiting for someone to bite.

The Memo is classified because it is based in truth upon
classified Documents from the FBI and DOJ.

And yes, it can be released with few redactions.

This has been discussed in previous pages. There is no comparison to Feinstein.

Someone would be breaking federal law if they arbitrarily released it (other than perhaps the President). There is a process to follow to do any redaction or declassification.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Perfectenemy

Of course not, he's a Democrat. Democrats never do wrong.

Lol that sounds like whining from a person who’s tired of being wrong.

You’re not locked in to supporting Trump. It’s okay to change your mind. Free yourself from the sinking ship.

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Greven

Feinstein's release wasn't classified information as far as I know. The memo is alleged to be.

It's not that they don't want to release it, it's that they by law cannot until it is declassified.

I was waiting for someone to bite.

The Memo is classified because it is based in truth upon
classified Documents from the FBI and DOJ.

And yes, it can be released with few redactions.

This has been discussed in previous pages. There is no comparison to Feinstein.

Someone would be breaking federal law if they arbitrarily released it (other than perhaps the President). There is a process to follow to do any redaction or declassification.

Donald Trump, Jr. said on Tucker Carlson tonight that he "thinks" his Father CAN and WILL Release the document.

a reply to: Greven

My main point was that The Memo is real and
based in fact upon classified documents from
the FBI and DOJ. The reason this is important
is some members are calling it fake, and BS.

Aside from that, sneaky Dianne did not follow procedure.

Neither did Manning. Apparently for some people
there are acceptable ways to break the law.

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Greven

My main point was that The Memo is real and
based in fact upon classified documents from
the FBI and DOJ. The reason this is important
is some members are calling it fake, and BS.

Aside from that, sneaky Dianne did not follow procedure.

Neither did Manning. Apparently for some people
there are acceptable ways to break the law.

Again, Feinstein did not release a classified document, so far as I am aware.

Her actions may be damaging in so much as it discourages witness testimony, but the action is not illegal.

Arbitrarily, releasing classified documents, like Manning did, is illegal.

a reply to: Greven

You missed the point.

Schiff is lying, either its highly classified or its worthless. And if its worthless, why not release to kill the speculation around it and prove us wrong?

He backed himself into a corner, much like the Dems have done with this shutdown. You don't realize just how fed up the American people are with government inaction, and we know full well the Democrats did this over illegals.

They chose illegals over Americans, and we'll make sure we don't forget it.

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Greven

My main point was that The Memo is real and
based in fact upon classified documents from
the FBI and DOJ. The reason this is important
is some members are calling it fake, and BS.

Aside from that, sneaky Dianne did not follow procedure.

Neither did Manning. Apparently for some people
there are acceptable ways to break the law.

Again, Feinstein did not release a classified document, so far as I am aware.

Her actions may be damaging in so much as it discourages witness testimony, but the action is not illegal.

Arbitrarily, releasing classified documents, like Manning did, is illegal.

Slow down.

You skimmed over the largest and opening paragraph.

My main point was that The Memo is real and
based in fact upon classified documents from
the FBI and DOJ. The reason this is important
is some members are calling it fake, and BS.

Sneaky Diane is a secondary issue.

a reply to: Scrubdog

I'm giving you a star, but really just for this line which was a pretty turn of phrase

Says the people that spent 8 years hating Obama so bad they needed a 9th like heroin. 

Maybe the devious Russian bots started retweeting and spreading #releasethememo to protect their collusion with Steele/DNC/(insert boogeymen here) knowing the #resist crowd would automatically discount it given the chance? Leading to a weakened and fractured nation and undermined presidency, which I've been told again and again by the left is the goal of the Russkies. #maskirovka