Turkey has announced that the Kurdish genocide is about to begin.

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: 23432

Lol, nope

The akp is no longer supported by a majority of kurds.

How do you know ?

Do you live in Turkey ?

Do you have Kurdish relatives ?


A personal vendetta is banal and understandable but please peddle your ignorance and hate on some other board ?

I had no idea you were a mod?

Or just one of erdogans cronies. Maybe you can beat some kurds up when you come to the us.

I am not a Mod .

You don't need to be a Mod to Deny Ignorance ; it is the whole damn point of this site .

Deny Ignorance .

Also , I am not an Erdogan supporter .

a reply to: ketsuko

The EU does but it's a pretty expensive effort for the poorer boarder countries.

a reply to: 23432

You obviously are a supporter.

You have justified everything he does.

Jailing reporters, judges, teachers, his move against kurds this year has had a huge effect you won't recognize, and his economic smoke and mirrors you won't even address...

Deny ignorance.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Wonder what will happen when Turkey start killing American backed Kurdish fighters ?

We'll pointedly look the other way. Just like when Saddam started killing Iraqi Kurds.

Also, notice how quiet the US government was when the Iraqi Kurds attempted secession again last year. That attempt collapsed almost overnight once it became clear that neither the US nor Russia were going to support them.

And where did those murdered Kurds sought refugee and ended up ?

In Turkey of course ; this happened despite the fact that Bush had been adviced by Turks not to start a war with Saddam .

The truth is Pentagon is comprmised to foreign powers and it shows .

a reply to: GuidedKill

When I went to Van at least 1/2 the military in eastern Turkey is Kurdish, so yes good luck Turkey.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: 23432

You obviously are a supporter.

You have justified everything he does.

Jailing reporters, judges, teachers, his move against kurds this year has had a huge effect you won't recognize, and his economic smoke and mirrors you won't even address...

Deny ignorance.

It's not Erdogan , it's the Turks .

Deny it at your own peril .

The narrative you have is basically an emperialist one .

So naive to think that if Erdogan was to leave than everything would be OK again .

Kurds don't want Kurdistan somewhere in the Middle East ; smart Kurds want Turkiye to naturally become Kurdiye .

You are clueless tool who is repeating MSM propaganda as truth .

a reply to: 23432

So your only argument once again is its the media.

So he hasn't jailed more journalists, more judges, more teachers than any other country?

The kurds don't support the HDP, the economy isn't a bubble, and he hasn't made changes in the Constitution to give himself more power.

Got it.

Keep using that one tag line you have though without any supporting evidence except "because I said so"

originally posted by: Theprodicalson

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Wonder what will happen when Turkey start killing American backed Kurdish fighters ?

The US will abandon the Kurds....as it always has.

Defending the Kurds might be the right thing to do, but is not the most profitable or politically practical thing to do...... and so the USA will throw them under the bus as profit and politics come before morality.......

Sames goes for France and the UK, they will throw the kurds under the bus too for the same reason.

Historically, I'd agree. In this case we have the 'Trump factor'. He is one who doesn't always follow the beaten track...

a reply to: 23432

Stay current! Do you not really see a little difference in how Trump views things? Granted, there are powers involved that can mess things up....IF. in fact, Trump is fully his own man in this issue, but allow that possibility in your views.

The games in the ME likely aren't fixable by Trump or anyone else outside that region, but by george, he sure as heck can give em pause....

I have no idea what News you People read, but the case is that the US want to establish a Curdis boarder force of about
30 000 trops on the Turkish,Iraqi and along the Eufrat river to the Iraqi boarder inside Syria. That is a massiv pice of land the US want the Curds to have controll over.

Turky will probably take side With Assad and Russia. The US and NATO forces will be in for hard times in Syria, there should be no doubt about it.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: 23432

So your only argument once again is its the media.

So he hasn't jailed more journalists, more judges, more teachers than any other country?

The kurds don't support the HDP, the economy isn't a bubble, and he hasn't made changes in the Constitution to give himself more power.

Got it.

Keep using that one tag line you have though without any supporting evidence except "because I said so"

So you want to be boring , eh ?

This US audience and most will have no clue but you hopefully get it .

Jailed judges , teachers etc etc have bought the exam questions to attain their professions ; this was a common Gladio operation where CIA would recruit poor kids from Turkey and bring them up to fight communists .

Most Kurds voted for AKP and Erdogan in last elections and you can google it .

Economy is in a bubble true but than again where in the World it isn't ?

Besides every single time Rothschild control Central Bank of Turkey wants to create a bust of that bubble ; a mysterous lorry or two arrives at the car park of the bank loaded with Dollars .

That is Erdogan's secret and yes he has build a fund worth 180 billion to fight anyone and everyone too .

Constitution was changed because " Parlimanterian Democracy " failed to deliver the goods ; so Turks will try " Presidential Democracy " to see what's to come . After , USA and France seemed to have it worked .

And people were asked to vote , they voted and decided . Too bad you don't like the outcome .


The angle you have on Kurds is outdated , useless and out right supportive of Emperialism in the Middle East .

You are really naive .

You think the Kurds in Turkey [ numbering 15 million ] are unarmed ?

You think the Kurds would sit silent and don't defend themselves ?

You are insulting Kurds Dude .

Ironically , Erdogan would have gone sooner if it wasn't for such a shallow opponents such as yourself .

a reply to: 23432

Most kurds did not vote for erdogan. I did Google it.

And this summer was a pretty big deal to kurds and the akp hemridged kurds even more.

But sure it's all the boogeyman man...it can't be the guy is practically a fascist.

a reply to: 23432

It's actually strange to hear everyone in this thread parrot MSM. Cringe worthy.

I don't like Erdogan but I do realize NATO/US have a track record of using the Kurds when it suits them. It also wouldn't surprise me that the last remains of ISIS (Erik Prince's mercenary as you called it) were holed up with US backed Kurdish mercenaries in Syria.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

The difference is the non blind can say nato is wrong as well. That US foreign policy is shady.

People defending erdogan because us foreign policy is bad is simply rediculous.

It's like picking one crappy politician over another and digging your heals in.

It's just a stupid arguement.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: 23432

Most kurds did not vote for erdogan. I did Google it.

And this summer was a pretty big deal to kurds and the akp hemridged kurds even more.

But sure it's all the boogeyman man...it can't be the guy is practically a fascist.

Erdogan is after uniting 53 muslim nations and some non muslim nations under the Islamic Caliphate . The Caliphate will be made up off ALL member nations delegates and the seat of power will be Istanbul .

You may call Erdogan fascist but that is a shallow and superficial understanding of the man himself .

Caliphate has a 1000 years of successfull history and justice or at least that is what 2 billion muslims believe and yearn for .

Erdogan happens to be the Man who is charge to deliver this Caliphate .

It is not Erdogan who started this process ; it was started way back in the 60's by Erbakan a.k.a Milli Gorus .

The issue before the World is bigger than Erdogan and AKP ; the inevitable showdown is about to take place and ironically Erdogan might ban Usury soon ; which is what this ALL debate is really about .



Irony is Erdogan has always been a politician ; i.e no army , no capital to back him up .

Why are you defending Eric's Mercs ?

Are you a ZioChristian or something like that ?

You know you are advocating the Armegeddon , don't you ?



Here is the chart of Kurdish Votes in Turkey which shows clear majority support for Erdogan .

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Rosinitiate

The difference is the non blind can say nato is wrong as well. That US foreign policy is shady.

People defending erdogan because us foreign policy is bad is simply rediculous.

It's like picking one crappy politician over another and digging your heals in.

It's just a stupid arguement.

" Shady " ?



People think Usury is evil and they take action against it by uniting behind Erdogan & AKP .

True Christians and True Jews will have no problem with Erdogan either .

You don't really get this at all do you ?

Erdogan is the personification of muslims all around the World ; just watch some of his youtube clips showing his visits to poorest countries on Earth .

Man is loved by billions , literally .


You , like most people are mistaken and keep cirticising him for the wrong reasons .

Even the Kurds got their right to speak their language with Erdogan .

Seriously , stop reading MSM .

a reply to: 23432

Banning usury would be hilarious since he accepted the loans he has taken that do exactly what banning usury purpose is.


Erdogan used to act like a sufi before the power went to his head.

Egomaniacs use whatever cause necessary to achieve more power. Whet he r a third Reich, an alternative right, socialism, etc...

a reply to: 23432

Ah his state newspaper.

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
a reply to: 23432

It's actually strange to hear everyone in this thread parrot MSM. Cringe worthy.

I don't like Erdogan but I do realize NATO/US have a track record of using the Kurds when it suits them. It also wouldn't surprise me that the last remains of ISIS (Erik Prince's mercenary as you called it) were holed up with US backed Kurdish mercenaries in Syria.

It is indeed toe cringing .

Kurdish mercenaries or ISIS both armed by Pentagon and used for certain agenda , obviously .

Most of those so called " Kurdish Mercs " are actually Armenians who hid their ID's .

I know this issue is really complicated and requires a dilligent approach .

Unfortunately , people just roll in and shoot their load and leave , so to speak .

Btw , Erdogan recently referred to " Firmament " above our head coming down soon and " Sun " that never set will arise too he said in a speech .

If I was a Conspiracy type of guy ; I would ask what or who is really threatened by Erdogan's hints about the Dome.

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
a reply to: 23432

It's actually strange to hear everyone in this thread parrot MSM. Cringe worthy.

I don't like Erdogan but I do realize NATO/US have a track record of using the Kurds when it suits them. It also wouldn't surprise me that the last remains of ISIS (Erik Prince's mercenary as you called it) were holed up with US backed Kurdish mercenaries in Syria.

It is indeed toe cringing .

Kurdish mercenaries or ISIS both armed by Pentagon and used for certain agenda , obviously .

Most of those so called " Kurdish Mercs " are actually Armenians who hid their ID's .

I know this issue is really complicated and requires a dilligent approach .

Unfortunately , people just roll in and shoot their load and leave , so to speak .

Btw , Erdogan recently referred to " Firmament " above our head coming down soon and " Sun " that never set will arise too he said in a speech .

If I was a Conspiracy type of guy ; I would ask what or who is really threatened by Erdogan's hints about the Dome.

He is great at using language to rally his base. However. He is delsuional to pick a fight with the big boys. I am sure faking the coup helped make the army full of subordinates but he isn't quite at the big boy table yet