What is happening with Night Vision approach to UFO hunting?

There is so much knowledge here to explore, I cannot help but try to avail myself of some of it.

Some of the people that I respect the most and count as friends, Knapp among them, have been shocked at the ease of seeing extremely "odd" things by looking up into the night sky with the night vision goggles. I was told; "Jason, I damn near guarantee you'll see something concretely odd on any given night, just about anywhere."

Well.

That will get ones attention.

Given that I'm a writer not named Steven King, purchasing some night vision goggles is not an option. Though, if anyone wants a very dark country area near the Gulf Coast to spend a night "hunting" - by all means, get a hold of me.

I've seen some good stuff on Youtube, but - you know, who knows what reliability one gets there.

Has anyone here had experience with them? Good or bad?

What are your thoughts?

Thx ahead of time, I sure appreciate the good discussion and deep knowledge here.

We wore NVGs for certain missions when I was in the AF.

Yes, you can see a lot of stuff in the night sky that is otherwise invisible to the unaided eye. It looked like a lot of space junk to me. I looked it up, and discovered there are tons of space trash floating around up there. I never saw anything make a 90-degree turn, make erratic maneuvers, or anything weird like that.

a reply to: Scrubdog
Night vision is cool but it's only good for infrared. You're better off to use thermal imaging.

Like when this UK police helicopter tweeted about a hot orb flying into the wind, that was unseen by ground radar and invisible to the naked eye.

www.google.ca...

originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: Scrubdog
Night vision is cool but it's only good for infrared.

A categorically false statement.

originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: Scrubdog
Night vision is cool but it's only good for infrared. You're better off to use thermal imaging.

Like when this UK police helicopter tweeted about a hot orb flying into the wind, that was unseen by ground radar and invisible to the naked eye.

www.google.ca...

Interesting posts, thank you both.

The thing that I've noted on Youtube is the number of triangles they see moving FAST up there.

When one sees an airplane go over, it's obvious, the whole thing bright shines out as "AIRPLANE" and when one sees bugs fly around, they go tossed through the air with no plan. It's when one sees a triangle that is obviously NOT an airplane and obviously "moving" somewhere, that's what I find so interesting.

I've also seen some interesting pictures of things through night vision hooked up to a telescope.

Seems like there's just way more up there than we think.

And it bugs me bc we're currently living out on a farm in southern MS, well away from any city light, far away from even a small town light.

I go outside and see the Milky Way, and I just stand there and think "What am I not seeing?"

I know I haven't seen a "UFO" - though I definitely do look.

That is true. NVGs amplify visible light.

originally posted by: TheTruthRocks
We wore NVGs for certain missions when I was in the AF.

Yes, you can see a lot of stuff in the night sky that is otherwise invisible to the unaided eye. It looked like a lot of space junk to me. I looked it up, and discovered there are tons of space trash floating around up there. I never saw anything make a 90-degree turn, make erratic maneuvers, or anything weird like that.

So you could see smaller stuff up in orbit? Or are you referring mostly to older satellites?

I am fascinated.

What did you fly?

If you were up there with night vision flying missions and didn't see much, that's a pretty big buzzkill on the idea of me going into the back 40 and seeing something just by looking up, which is close to what i'm almost assured that one needs to do.

Infra-red night vision is 'naturally' ambiguous. It's probably not so much as what you can see looking through goggles, it's what is given in so many YouTube videos that can lend the lie to what is actually there. Perhaps one good example is a light source, A sliver Moon phase looked at without night vision for instance, is just that maybe barely visible and small, with infra-red night vision you will see a bright glowing orb just like a full Moon when it is clearly not.
on a tiny scale, you will see all sorts of dross floating about, reflecting the IR source, on a foggy night it looks like it's snowing with all these tiny molecules passing by, looking out the window, all you see is 'fog' ..same goes for the dross on a clear night in IR, some things are insects, some are dust, pollen, spiders and so on, and all of it doing anything but something linear, and of course when it rains and water is on the lens, you can have all these strange, ethereal shapes forming, and reshaping.

originally posted by: smurfy
Infra-red night vision is 'naturally' ambiguous. It's probably not so much as what you can see looking through goggles, it's what is given in so many YouTube videos that can lend the lie to what is actually there. Perhaps one good example is a light source, A sliver Moon phase looked at without night vision for instance, is just that maybe barely visible and small, with infra-red night vision you will see a bright glowing orb just like a full Moon when it is clearly not.
on a tiny scale, you will see all sorts of dross floating about, reflecting the IR source, on a foggy night it looks like it's snowing with all these tiny molecules passing by, looking out the window, all you see is 'fog' ..same goes for the dross on a clear night in IR, some things are insects, some are dust, pollen, spiders and so on, and all of it doing anything but something linear, and of course when it rains and water is on the lens, you can have all these strange, ethereal shapes forming, and reshaping.

A great post.

total buzzkill in terms of enthusiasm to do it, but a great one nonetheless!

I do want "real" answers, so your input is much appreciated. Thank you.

a reply to: WhyDidIJointhermal sees fun stuff but to see any detail.....pvs-14 first.....add an armasight or better, the new chaeper ones hat run only 1900 hundred dollars

the details we wont speak of.....not exacly....buy a pvs-14 one year old....quick

the one with the pinnacle name tube from nv4less on ebay

a reply to: Scrubdog

Since you've been checking out vids, can you share some you find intriguing? Interesting topic.

a reply to: GBP/JPY

What kind of tech might we see, G? Do you know of any interesting vids. Or links. Thanks.

goggles are gen 2.....pvs-14 is gen 3

on the ir thermal viewers....386 is gen 2.....640 is gen 3

originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: Scrubdog

Since you've been checking out vids, can you share some you find intriguing? Interesting topic.

I am happy to, it's just that the last time I tried, it didnt work out particularly well. If this one doesn't appear in the reply, here is the link: www.youtube.com... - That one isn't a triangle (I am continuing to hunt for the triangles and I'm kind of pissed I'm not finding it right away. But, it does have a pretty clear turn and it doesn't in any way look like an insect.




Here is the good one. Now, if you can easily debunk it, please do so without debunking me. I am new to actual raw data, I write, fiction, not investigate. But, it IS an interesting one to me. Link here www.youtube.com...

Darn it, y'all. I am hitting the "Youtube" thing, and putting in the url, and yet my videos all go to black. I blog on a couple other sites and have been able to cut paste easily. Hopefully the links are easy enough for you to manage, and I do apologize.

Again, the best triangle I have seen is here: www.youtube.com...

Technology has changed a lot since I owned my first and only night vision (ITT Cam 310) and I never could afford a decent thermal cam with lense, but I do like this demo for the Sony SNC-VB770:



No more blooming from bright lights and much better definition than I've seen from an inexpensive thermal cam. Depending upon the most important lense choice, the SNC-VB770 seems like a reasonable price (I do not work for Sony or any other organization) for the video quality and a much much cheaper solution than a Canon ME20F-SH or the SPI digital X27 ColorVision (TM) reconnaissance LLL (Low Light Level) true Color night vision:

That bottom one is stunningly good technology. What an asset for our guys in the field.

a reply to: Scrubdog


Have you seen youtube's UFO Lou ?

originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: Scrubdog


Have you seen youtube's UFO Lou ?

I believe I had seen one or two of those before, but I just watched several more. Those are highly interesting.

I'd love to know what others think.

It seems to me to be very easy to tell the difference between planes, sats and bugs, so what else might fall into the category of "other" is an interesting question.

Of all of Lou's, this one seems to be the best that I've viewed so far. www.youtube.com...

He does a great job of showing the I.S.S. in comparison, for speed and size, lack of structure. This one appears to be a massive delta shape to me.