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President Trump to be murdered, L.A. nuked ???!!!

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posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 12:05 PM
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Geez money affects our lives far more than government. Proof: government taxes the economy to exist.

If it were different, then government would print it's own currency and stop taxing the economy. Who really runs the show? Banks.

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 12:11 PM
a reply to: SkeptiSchism

We know that. Banks only function because of us.

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 12:12 PM

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 12:14 PM
a reply to: quodlibet
This lady sounds an absolute quack, and I am embarrassed that we share a common ancestry/heritage.
Did she actually predict any of those incidents like tsunami and earthquakes, or were they just vague broad statements like "oh, the pacific could see a disaster in the coming years, Mexico may have an earthquake that will hurt bad in coming years" .

Anybody can make a vague statements when using broad descriptors with no given timeline other than "the future" .

Unless she lined up dates within a week and named specific locations, she has predicted squat!

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 12:15 PM
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

In what way shape or form? In the beginning, yes they took deposits then made loans into the economy giving the depositors a cut of their profits in the form of interest.

But over time they created an extensive network by using central banks. Now banks get credit from the central banks at rates much lower than they'd pay depositors so they don't really need us. And since they've made everything so expensive through inflation people need loans to get even basic things like a house or an education.

Sorry I know that is off topic so I'll

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 12:25 PM
It would certainly be terrible of President Trump came to any harm....

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 12:28 PM
Oh, about LA........yea, terrible
edit on 9-1-2018 by Plotus because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 12:36 PM
a reply to: quodlibet

Typical Florez latin last name. Geee, I wonder if she made these wild predictions because she has cousins/friends from latin community that will soon be deported and hope that this man burns in hell? LMAO

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 12:41 PM
The odds of TRUMP being wacked are zitch! Prediction tosh!

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 01:38 PM

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
The odds of TRUMP being wacked are zitch! Prediction tosh!

I disagree,I think about any world leader has 50/50 chance of getting assassinated if they make the right people angry. I think it is a pretty easy assumption to make.

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 01:52 PM
a reply to: quodlibet

Look I shall agree as far as the bible arguing about spirits of Divination being dangerous and most often evil, that true prophecy only come's from the holy spirit and non other.

I shall also argue that on many point's Debbie is correct but as for the Virgin Mary she is actually one hundred percent wrong.

Now there was indeed a pagan cult called Asher or as you may know it the Demon Asteroth which is actually intimately linked with Satan these day's, this false Goddess was worshiped wrongly by many in ancient Israel even among the Jews and is referenced in the Asher poles in the bible often associated with high places and alters, it was also called the Wife of God and the Queen of Heaven but the prophets of Jehovah cast it down and in fact it was a pagan Non Abrahamic cult which had infected the belief's of the people of Israel.

Now as for the veneration of the Virgin Mary it goes actually back to the very oldest church's and is based on Christian tradition which was itself based on Verbal teaching's that were mostly not written down but has nothing to do with the Asher at all, nothing what so ever, the Orthodox, Armenian, Ethiopian, Coptic, Syriac etc church's independent tradition's of venerating her are based on a shared belief that she was lifted up to heaven by her son before she died and that he then crowned her the REAL Queen of Heaven.

Behold your Mother, Woman Behold your Son.

However over the century's the Church has re-purposed many pagan date's and festival's as a very successful method of helping to Christianize pagan population's, in fact Christmas may actually be better celebrated on the 2nd of March according to one bible scholar whom based his date on a study of the known time's and dates of some of the people in the bible whom can be historically aligned and also working out were in Egypt Mary and Jesus were led by Joseph, actually only just across the border with Israel and not all the way to the Cairo as many copt's today believe if he is correct, he worked it out perfectly based on how far a person can walk in a day and how many day's the Virgin's purification before the presentation of Jesus in the temple took place.

So the tradition of the Veneration of the Virgin Mary is actually one of the very earliest and actually PRE-Catholic tradition's.

As far as I am concerned Christ is my savior, my king and my God - as is his father and the holy spirit.
His mother is my Queen and heavenly mother as he said to his apostle while on the cross, Behold your mother and to his mother Behold your son.

The Protestant Rejection of the Virgin Mary came with the rejection of the Catholic Church - BUT they then based there own faith on only the text they had based on the translation of the bible and they rejected the equally important and pan Christian shared tradition's of not only the Catholic's but of ALL other christian's even the Syriac Orthodoxy whom it so happens' are probably the oldest contiguous church in existence with the oldest tradition's having been founded by the apostles and having had St Peter as there first bishop long before he traveled to Rome.

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 01:55 PM
I think any "Familiar Spirit is real bad news". They can and do lead you along, and then when you go out on the proverbial limb. Kaboom, down you go, Mortal. There are previous predictions about L.A. going under the waves. The quake stopped the clock in a tower, and then the waters snaked into and over the city all the way to the heights off to the East. So that vision meant that it wasn't an Orphan Tsunami, or one coming across the Pacific. Could a volcanic flank collapse in the Canary Islands take down a bridge in Brooklyn? Well maybe, and with no clocks getting jammed up in NYC.

Edgar Cayce is a little different book. He had no idea what he spouted, while in his trances. His wife wrote down his utterences, as "BEST AS SHE COULD, PHONETICALLY". So Jon Peniel was really the French, Jean Peniel. In another thread topic, I noted this, and went further, saying that whatever discarnate spirit, Cayce channeled in 1934, in NYC, had lifted this from Nostradamus's C. VIII, Q. 31. Now this lady, juggles several different means of skrying, along with her own Familiar Spirit's whispering in her ears.

So I'd like to see some of this written down, and translated into English. Abigail Adams, a WWI Spook, was doing astrology in NYC, and saw a great Blackness, early on the morning of Black Friday. She warned a couple of clients, who got out of the Market, in the nick of time. BTW, I believe that both Kennedy and Reagan were murdered in Office. Reagan was brought back from the dead, as his blood pressure was down to zip, as he got to the hospital. IOW's he flat lined in his Limo. Obviously, the SS covered this up, as it raised questions about the Vice President, assuming the Acting Presidency, when Reagan "died".

Some fiend knocking off Pres. Trump, could start the Second American Civil War, and Pence & Co. may not be able to stop it. Our casualties in the first six months would be astronomical, and it well could be an American Nuke, that takes out L.A., if they pulled a "Benedict Arnold", kind of sell out.

Cayce's channel was more tuned into Japan, than this lady seems to be. She saw Banda Asheesh, but not Fukashima. At least Nostradamus, of these three Seers, saw Mt. St. Helens, " the Great Round Mountain", falling apart and running down to the sea. And it did cross the plane of the Olympic Mts. as the hot muddy waters, crossed the bar at the mouth of the Columbia River. Most of Washington State's volcanoes, would dump their lahars into Puget Sound, short of the Olympics.

Only Oregon's Mt. Hood, and Washington State's Mt. Adams and Mt. St. Helens, are close to the Columbia River, which dumps directly into the Pacific, directly South of the Spine of the Olympic Peninsula. BTW, all of the "Great" round Mountains are snow capped Strato Volcanos, at least before they blow their tops. This is also true for Kilimanjaro, near the equator, in Torrid Africa. Looking straight down at them, it seems like they are all giant white parasols.

If you take several of these Seer's together, then this lady is giving knothole views, like someone watching a baseball game through the outfield fence. It doesn't mean that she isn't good with Tarot cards or Astrology, but really this is Apples and Oranges, compared to a vision of the Nuclear Destruction, of Los Angeles. Cayce's channel pre-cogged all three Nukes we shot off in WWII, including the "ghost" nuke, off of Cape May, N.J., in Jan. 1943. And this channel came years before WWII.

But according to other Visions, the sinking of L.A. under the Pacific, comes first, as the City is still intact, when the Quake stops the clock in the tower. And the background of one of these visions, from the Thirties, has men with glitter in their hair, walking along at that terrible moment. So this lady's channel, may just be gilding the lily, in order to have her bug out of L.A. before a Mega Tsunami. It may be six of one, and a half dozen of the other. I think it comes down to how much credence, she puts in her vision of the Boxing Day Indonesian Tsunami, of a few years ago. So, I'm not about to Diss her, nor her "channel". I only want to make the point, that a 'channel', like Edgar Cayce's, cannot see much background. So jeune Selin, doesn't really generate, "Jean Peniel", vis a vie, Nostradamus's, 16th Century, French anagrams.

Unlike Cayce, knocked out on his fainting couch, this lady's channel is trying to show her, future things, with her conscious mind. And she's more than likely, working these tidbits through her astrology and Tarot Card, skryings.

So, whether L.A. gets Nuked, or a Quake sinks it beneath the Pacific. It's a good reason to steer clear of that place. But one, or maybe both, of these two disparate visions, have to be wrong.

edit on 9-1-2018 by carpooler because: both can be wrong, but both cannot be right

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 01:57 PM
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

It is.

It's also in the words of one 'John Wick', - "Tactical".
edit on 9-1-2018 by dothedew because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 03:00 PM
Sorry I don't have the time to read this book.
a reply to: quodlibet

posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 04:29 PM
I suggest organizing your post next time. It was a terrible read.

posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 03:23 AM
a reply to: quodlibet

The 3 major corporations are stationed in Calif,who do you think runs the US?,do you really think they would destroy themselves? The presidency is nothing more then a facade,we are run by the CIA,and now power is being shifted to the middle east,they will become new America,who knows what is in store for us,a nucleur bomb,or some impending doom,sounds like it's etched in stone they have time charts

posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 03:47 AM
We need to surround the President with prayer, witches have formed a prayer watch in the night hours.

We as believers can counter this by pleading the Blood of Jesus over the President every day.



edit on 1.10.2018 by Murgatroid because: Felt like it...

posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 01:53 PM
a reply to: carpooler
After sleeping on my post from yesterday, I realized that there is another stray Cayce Channel, which was written down correctly in English by Cayce's wife.

Cayce as usual, was doing Psychic Prescriptions for clients. But either his normal channel, or some other one, butted in and Cayce went off into the weeds. His channel claims that the little lost Prince from the French Revolution, was carried off to safety, by his "Chief Tormentor", who had an epiphany, and then became his "Protector", for many years.

Now I've researched this one, since the mid 1980's, and I can give this forum the straight skinny. Publicly, King Louis XVI, had three children. First born was a son, Louis Joseph, the second was a girl, who lived until 1851, and was known later as Madam Royale. The youngest publicly known son was Louis Charles, who has become known, to History, as the Lost Dauphin. He was born in 1785, and he is the little Prince of Cayce's channel.

An older teenager died and was autopsied, in this Prince's cell, in 1795. But these leg bones were too long for a ten year olds. This spawned around 30 imposters, in the Nineteenth Century, claiming to be that little ten year old. In 2005, a pickled heart, was tested by matching it's mtDNA with a strand of hair in some Nun's locket, from Austria, which came from a female cousin of Maria Antonia, ( Marie Antoinette ). It showed a perfect match, so the public news claimed, PREMATURELY, that the mystery was solved.

Now, what really happened was that Louis Joseph had a twin brother. Louis Joseph pre-deceased his parents, and the twin brother stayed hidden away in a convent, outside of Paris. The grieving Royal couple began spending"quiet time", in that convent's garden. About a year before Joseph passed on from chronic sickness, the King created his younger son, Duke of Normandy. This set the Court on it's head, as they could see that the healthy Prince would become the heir or Dauphin, within a year or so. But King Louis knew all about the twin, who was also sickly, and made sure that his young son would have the Royal pedigree, of a Duke.

As the French Revolution descended into the Hellish Terror, two things had to have happened. As the hidden Prince's health was failing, some Nuns wanted him to get his proper burial as the Dauphin, which he was, after the King was executed. So they made a deal with the devil. This devil was Max Robespierre, and Max switched out the healthy Prince for the dying one. This transpired about three months before the death in the prison cell.

So the remains autopsied in 1795, and DNA tested in 2005, were of a 14 year, and six months old, Royal Prince, and Dauphin of France. Max seeing the storm gathering against him, went back to the well, set up a dupe, and decamped Paris, with the healthy ten year old. Max was about 33 years older than the kid, and they made good their escape, while the Dupe, dressed in Robespierre's clothes, was arrested, given a midnight trial, and executed at dawn, the following day.

He had been shot in the jaw, by a horse pistol, so his head was wrapped up like a mummy, with his hands tied behind his back. So this Dupe couldn't call out or even write that he was not Max Robespierre. Wherever Max and the child went to ground, is unknown, but Robespierre's family came from Arras, at the Northern border of France.

He had Napoleon in a prison cell, but couldn't finish that job, so in the following years he was on the run from both the Emperor of Austria, and Napoleon. After Waterloo, the Emperor was very much still in business as the Austrian Hungarian Emperor, if not Holy Roman Emperor. So even in 1815 when the child was 30 years of age, the pair was still hiding out, until Max died off, probably of old age.

Now, Nostradamus, also has a few quatrains dealing with this, but this newbie's channel doesn't mention Nosty's or Cayce's channels' claims. I also subscribe to the "Legend of Anagrams", where your given name determines your fate. Even though this predictor was in French, for both Max and Charles, there is a ghostly numerical solution in Max's given names, just like the #56 for Isoruku Yamamoto, of Pearl Harbor fame.

Max's full name is Maximilian Marie Isadore de Robespierre. Taking the Roman Numerals of his given names, gives M, M, I, or 2001. He had to flee somewhere beyond the reach of the Catholic Austrian Emperor, or the Free Mason, Napoleon.

Max would have died around the middle of the Nineteenth Century, while the Prince could have lived on to the last quarter of it. But neither could have lived on to the beginning of the 20th Century, much less, the 21st. And knowing something of Nuns in general, they would have exacted a blood oath, from old Max, to raise the kid as a Catholic. And they would have given Max some serious change, left over from hiding the Dauphin in their garden, as a kind of Dowery. So Max would have passed himself off as a widower, with a ten year old son, and a decent Dowery, from his late wife.

So, in the end, Cayce's channel isn't wrong at all. Everyone reporting on the Pickled Heart, is wrong. But in 2005, the Duke of Parma, delivered the DNA fingerprinted Heart relic, to St. Denis, and it's now in the crypt reserved for Louis XVII. But from the moment the Dauphin died in his younger brother's prison cell, Louis Charles became Titular King Louis XVIII, and not his uncle, the Duke of Anjo. Louis XVII, is finally in his proper crypt, in the Royal Mausoleum in the Cathedral of St. Denis, FR. but the Lost Dauphin is still, very much, lost. And while there are still thousands of French Monarchists today, this old channel of Cayce's upsets all of their applecarts.

Now plug this new knowledge into the claims of this lady in Cali about her own spirit guide's warnings, and make your own decisions. You might well look to your own names, to see if your anagrams will fit into this warning. And in passing, that 2005 DNA match was finished up in that year. 2001AD may well have seen it's beginnings. Someone had to search out all of Maria Antonia's relatives, to find that Austrian nun, with the locket of her cousin's hair. It wasn't any Dan Brown, 48 hrs. detective story.

So, I hope that some of you can take this to heart. These discarnate spooks know exactly what really happened in the past. But their predictions are still shots in the dark. I made the key breakthrough with Nosty's genealogical code, in Nov. 1985, meeting with my old schoolmate, standing over my then new 1985 Mercury TOPAZ. Adding in the extra descriptor, HOOD, ornament, of his age, really dials in Nosty's prediction of his 500th year of Months, decoder. From Nosty's birth, in 1503, to Nov. 1985, is exactly 500 years of 28 day months.

28 years earlier, in 1957, my old school chum had brought his dad's WWII infamous photos of Mussolini hanging upside down in Milano, It. in 1945, to school for a show and tell. When he told me the rest of the story in 1985, after doing a 12,000 mile checkup on my new Mercury Topaz, I knew for sure what I had discovered. I also saw just how accurate Nostradamus could be, when he thought it safe enough. Nosty detested Hitler and Mussolini, and since Mussolini was a student of his book, he used this to set up the "bear trap", which brought Benito down. Benito was running away from the jeune Selin, or Cayce's Jean Peniel, when he was shot dead, at Dongo.

edit on 10-1-2018 by carpooler because: Dan Brown, overnight, story

edit on 10-1-2018 by carpooler because: Dan Brown, overnight, story

posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 03:08 PM

originally posted by: dothedew
Well, whatever wicked this way comes, I have my fully functioning suit of Power Armor ready to go.



posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 02:54 PM
"Sorry. I don't have time to read this book." -- gimcrackery

The following would be Chapter 2 of my book, which some refuse to read. Why not make a long story even longer. I was in the kitchen as the soup boiled noisily. Then I heard a Voice. "You should know that Mr. Gimcrackery is tawdry gewgaw. He belongs to the Twitter Tribe. Their motto: 'Think fast! Think in terms of slogans!' With some effort they can handle 140 characters. Now the chirps are twice as long and the stress is unbearable. Their span of attention: 8 seconds flat. They're all hyperactive. We prescribe ritalin or valium for them." I was so busy paying attention to this that the soup boiled over.

StoutBroux and blueman12 managed to read the book but found it too chaotic. I'll have to work on that.

Notsure1, SkeptiSchism, Wide-Eyes and Oldtimer have answers to the question about who really controls the U.S. They ought to read Columbia U. economist Ferdinand Lundberg's AMERICA'S SIXTY FAMILIES and THE RICH AND THE SUPER-RICH -- A STUDY IN THE POWER OF MONEY TODAY (a 1968 bestseller), and also the books by Steven M. Greer, M.D., like UNACKNOWLEDGED -- AN EXPOSÉ OF THE WORLD'S GREATEST SECRET (2017), where he shows it's not the CIA that rules the country, as Oldtimer believes.

A CIA director was murdered and found floating in the Potomac River in Wash., D.C., as a warning by what General Eisenhower called the "military-industrial complex", which developed into a covert gov't. At the Iran-Contra Affair Congressional hearings Senator Daniel K. Inouye denounced it: "There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself." Whenever a CIA director goes over to the Pentagon and demands to know all about the covert projects he's told that he doesn't have "the need to know". The CIA is an outsider there and not welcome. Inouye, too, was mistaken about the details of the matter. He thought it was the CIA that had created the Shadow Gov't.

LABTECH767 rejects Debby's (she writes her name thus, with a letter wye) version of the Mary Matter. It's not for me to say who is mistaken concerning that, but the bodily ascents to Heaven of some Hebrew prophets, Mary (which LABTECH mentions) and the Prophet Mohammed are self-contradictory. Of what use would a material body be in an immaterial world?

Protestants also object to the idea that the Virgin Mary, too, is an interceder between the Creator of Worlds and human beings, and to the veneration of a large number if saints (are they interceders, or just miracle workers?). They say there is only one interceder, which is Jesus. Do Protestants have a harder time than the Catholics trying to remain united because they have no pope? On the TV channels I heard several times that Jehova's Witnesses were not true Christians and that they taught things that were not to be found in the Holy Scriptures.

Carpooler is a Cayce scholar. The only book on Cayce I've ever read is his son Edgar Evans's EDGAR CAYCE ON ATLANTIS. Cayce Sr. saw vast geological upheavals, a repetition of the sinking of Atlantis. Volcanos in the equatorial region will blow their tops. Large portions of the present continents will sink (both the U.S. West and northern East Coasts and northern Europe), and most of Japan, and new land will rise from the waters, off the East Coast of the U.S.

I found Carpooler's story about the French heir to the throne especially useful because in my youth I took a college course on the French Revolution, but it was Robespierre who was shot in the jaw, we were told, in a stormy session of the Nat'l. Assembly, before being taken to the guillotine, not a substitute. The idea that Robespierre was able to flee is not at all credible because he couldn't have managed to do that during the said session. He was at all times surrounded by a murderous crowd bent on dragging him away, which was what happened. This is like the stories about Hitler having escaped and settled down in South America.

Carpooler tells about another three odd matters: an atomic bomb test in Jan. 1943 in Cape May, N.J., previous to the one at Alamo Gordo, Reagan being shot and then brought back to life (where are the sources for this, and the evidence?), and the present president's murder and the ensuing NUCLEAR civil war. (Those who call themselves "the Patriots" are preparing for something similar, a civil war against the Afroamericans and the "Latinos", and they do military training up in the hills somewhere.)

Yesterday I was shocked as I heard Deseret in another video telling about her most recent predictions for 2018, a really Horrible Year. Now she sounds even more like the Angel of Doom and Death, maybe including my own, since she sees an earthquake in Bogotá, but also in several other places: California, Lima (capital of Perú), northern Chile, Ecuador and Mexico (in the city of Guadalajara, which is close to the Pacific coast, and in the Peninsula of Yucatán, which juts out into the Gulf of Mexico). A volcano will erupt in Tokio and there will be a tsunami.

There will be three events involving firearms: a terrorist attack in Singapore with many deaths, another school massacre in the U.S., worse than all the previous ones ("como jamás se había visto"), "in the center of the country", and a massacre in a stadium at a concert for young people in the 15 to 30 range of ages (no place given).

She also sees the coast of Perú and other countries covered by dead fish (no cause given; a toxic microscopic red algae bloom?)

All that is mild as compared to this: that in May North Korea will start World War III by lauching nuclear attacks at several cities in the U.S., including San Francisco, Chicago, Washington, D.C., and
New York. The Middle East conflict will be one of the causes. China will support North Korea and strengthen its alliance with Russia, and these two superpowers will replace the U.S. in world leadership if the gunman who will shoot Mr. Trump succeeds because this will utterly destabilize the country.

The bitcoin will collapse, then the entire world economy.

There are several things that don't fit. North Korea attacking the U.S. sounds as silly as a mouse trying to bring down an elephant, and establishing a link between that and the Middle East is not easy. World War III starts in May but the vagaries of the exchange rate of the dollar in Colombia sound like "business as usual": "Se mantendrá estable hasta el mes de abril, en esa fecha tendrá un alza y volverá estabilizarse hasta septiembre, mes en el que también volverá a subir, así que por ahora no veo que el dólar vaya a tener alguna caída significativa". So what about the downfall of the U.S.? It's not worth the while translating that. In Bogotá a hidden volcano will erupt, but that's just an allusion to a popular local myth about the mountain of Monserrate that overlooks the city being a volcano that will eventually blow up, which has no geological basis. It could be that her unconscious or subconscious mind is interfering with her readings and visions, as is the case with all seers.

Also, her admonition that we can still avoid that war by praying and a change of awareness, a new "consciousness", "an energy of peace, of spiritual awakening", sounds weak. I've heard many others saying similar (...)

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