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originally posted by: Iridomyrmex
Now, what is an appropriate response by U.S. citizens?
(Both to their gov/mil, and to TTS/AAS)
Why aren't more people alarmed about this?
originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: 1ofthe9
I Googled off of jaded&cynicals earlier links about Bigelow Contracts with NASA/DoD and I thought I saw some numbers that would make 22 mil significant. However, it's also reportedly true that Bigelow has pretty extensive wealth from his non-space bread & butter enterprises (real estate/hospitality chains, etc)
Heck, Elizondo is claiming official disclosure almost with that. And, maybe relevant or not, they name-dropped that Luis and General Mattis are pretty tight apparently.
Why mention a time dilation element if it's not relevant?
So, if I may ask, what "lodges" have you had experience with? Since the subject comes up more than once with various of the players and peripherals.
The main reasons I find Blue Resonant Human interesting is he obviously associated with some of the so-called Aviary (and sometimes in ritual settings it appears,) further, he broke a lot of early things about them that turned out to be true, and in spite of his sometimes sharp-ass tongue, he seemed an alright person at heart and an exceptionally shrewd observer.
It's about the ONLY thing these guys don't publicize about themselves when you think about it. They'll attach their names to any other phenomenology it seems. And the folk that claim the most success with "other intelligences" historically speaking are the Occultists.
I respect Doc Jock (Jacques Vallee) in so many ways, so don't get me wrong here, but he's the easiest one to establish poking around some of the darker arts and corners. From his own words and other accounts. A lot of it detached observer, I'm sure, but some immersion as well.
I'm personally not looking to discuss opinions on the nature of alleged entities and find it largely off topic. Unless we're talking about what some of the folk mentioned in this thread might believe about an intelligence separate than us. On one hand they talk their product in ETH terms, but the closer look reveals them conceiving a metaphysical cum quantum-something. Whether they are right or wrong about the nature of the UFO, TTS is selling the ETH to the public ,literally, but chasing some bastard child of the IDH. Which I also find the most likely I admit.
originally posted by: Whatsthisthen
a reply to: The GUT
On the nature of these things I am not sure either, but I am learning about them. The "metaphysical cum quantum-something" seems a fairly accurate description . . . . . maybe . . . . . (?).
Now what the hell is a ETH TTS IDH? I'm still catching up on the jargon here : )
originally posted by: Whatsthisthen
a reply to: mirageman
Genetics, microbiology, immunology, parasitology, and so on.
So a medical layer and an intelligence layer?
That question is a worry . . . .
Though the most prominently discussed aspect of MKULTRA is the CIA's '___' work, the program included many other unusual investigations relating to the science of mind control. CIA researchers probed the potential of numerous parapsychological phenomena, including hypnosis, telepathy, precognition, photokinesis and "remote viewing."
When the CIA learned of these studies the obvious question was, ‘Do we have such a potential?' At this juncture, the United States did not have such a capability, nor had they ever really considered it−until now. If all these other "agencies" are involved, then why we not involved? It was clear that the principal intelligence agency for the United States needed to "catch up" to the intelligence collection efforts of the others−at least in this "alternative" method of gathering intelligence.
Late in 1972, CIA scientist Sidney Gottlieb, Chief of the Technical Services Division procured a rather large monetary endowment to initiate the research project that began it all. If the Soviets, and the others were as heavily involved in this research as was being reported−the National Security of the United States could be in jeopardy. Probably, the simple notion that this "eerie capability" might really be out there; and the possibility that we could do it as well, almost certainly drove the CIA's decision process.
In 1952, the CIA initiated an extensive program involving the search for, and development of, exceptionally gifted individuals who could approximate perfect success in ESP performance. The Office of Security, which ran the ARTICHOKE project, was urged to follow all leads on individuals reported to have true clairvoyant powers so as to be able to subject their claims to rigorous scientific investigation.
The CIA began infiltrating séances and occult gatherings during the 1950s, which may explain why they were interested in a bizarre UFO/medium case in Maine in 1959. A memo dated April 9, 1953, refers to a domestic - and therefore illegal - operation that required the planting of a very specialized observer at a séance in order to obtain a broad surveillance of all individuals attending the meetings.
During the late 1960s, the CIA experimented with mediums in an attempt to contact and possibly debrief dead CIA agents. These attempts, according to Victor Marchetti, a former high-ranking CIA official, were part of a larger effort to harness psychic powers for various intelligence-related missions (PROJECT SCANATE) that included utilizing clairvoyants to divine the intentions of the Kremlin leadership.
Concrete evidence that electronic mind control was an object of study at SRI was exposed by the Washington Post in 1977: "When the Navy awarded a contract to the Institute, the scientific assistant to the Secretary of the Navy, Dr. Sam Koslov, received a routine briefing on various research projects, including SRIs.
As the briefer flashed his chart onto the screen and began to speak, Koslov stormily interrupted, What the hell is that about? Among the glowing words on the projected chart, the section describing SRIs work was labelled, ELF AND MIND CONTROL.
ELF stands for extremely [low] frequency electromagnetic waves, from the very slow brain frequencies up to about 100 cycles per second….
originally posted by: mirageman
Even Luis Elizondo's academic background includes Microbiology, Immunology and Parasitology, with research experience in tropical diseases. Luis is also an inventor who holds several patents.
Anyone want to convince me that Tom DeLonge as President chose these people off his own bat?
Of course the more important question is what is coming further down the line?