Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

Hey, where's mm, there's a rumor going around aliens were at the royal wedding today

Look at this

a reply to: Willtell

OMG....

originally posted by: Willtell
Hey, where's mm, there's a rumor going around aliens were at the royal wedding today

Look at this

The tooth is out there my friend.

a reply to: mirageman

The only reason you are not pelted with rotten tomatoes
repeatedly, is that you are hiding in the UK, and of
course working for the Joint Commission / MI-6,
so you are too guarded.

Kev

a reply to: mirageman

I get it; real aliens don’t have any teeth.

Do they?

I'm curious how the congress thing will unfold.

a reply to: mirageman

GENIUS.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: mirageman

The only reason you are not pelted with rotten tomatoes
repeatedly, is that you are hiding in the UK, and of
course working for the Joint Commission / MI-6,
so you are too guarded.

Kev

Lol nice one

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: mirageman

I get it; real aliens don’t have any teeth.

Do they?

I think it was more to do with someone having a dental breakdown....

Ow....who threw that tomato.

a reply to: Hyperboles

It's not entirely a joke. At least not a new one.

Obviously. No, I wasn’t getting on the kid; the kid was cute, just a little topical humor.

Though, come to think of it Aliens don’t have teeth, at least the ones in the popular imagination.

originally posted by: Willtell
Obviously. No, I wasn’t getting on the kid; the kid was cute, just a little topical humor.

Though, come to think of it Aliens don’t have teeth, at least the ones in the popular imagination.

Lol wait till you receive a love bite or an implant. I have visible marks and indentations

Now I've cleaned off the rotten tomatoes we need to get back on track.

There has been yet another 'drip feeding' of information with a report on the 'Tic-Tac' UFO suddenly surfacing a few days ago.

See : I-Team Exclusive: Confidential report analyzes Tic Tac UFO incidents

...the I-Team has obtained an in-depth report prepared by and for the military, and it analyzes the so-called Tic Tac UFO using the most sophisticated sensor systems in the world...

Well that's what we were told in the piece.

With no official date, identification markings, logos, addressees, author this seems to be more 'unofficial' draft than an actual report.

Strangely Leslie Kean facebooked about this report the following day (May 19th 2018) somewhat contradicting the headline that it was 'confidential'. She states it wasn't classified and was provided by BAASS. So unless they are part of the military then it wasn't prepared by the military either. Or is Leslie mistaken?



There is a Google Map printed out in the report and timestamped 2009. So the logical conclusion is this was typed up sometime in 2009. The typography also looks like standard MS Word templates from around that time. So if this comes from BAASS it fits in with the time AATIP/AAWSAP was active. But given the fact that the report fails to mention either of these programs is somewhat puzzling.

Eric Davis also mentioned this report on Phenomenon Radio in Jan 2018

....This document is just basically a summary investigation report of the Nimitz encounter. I was doing a summarising of witnesses' data, background information, and summarising witness statements. ..

We got that as a part of our subcontract work to Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies work on being able to help them analyse these encounters and see if we can figure out what they are, who they are, where they're from.

....We were given this information as a matter of information sharing because this is an Intelligence Agency program contract so we're getting it, we're getting a copy and it's not classified. It's basically an unreleased version on regular paper. ..

Davis seems to be confirming Leslie Kean's comments.


Now going back to the main article it also states:

In the explosion of media interest that followed the Pentagon's release of the Tic Tac video along with recordings of two other encounters, Commander Fravor expressed the opinion that the technology was far more advanced than anything known on earth.

But in the months since the release, the Pentagon has clammed up. It has declined to release official documents about the Nimitz Tic Tac encounter, or similar incidents.

See : www.lasvegasnow.com...

Is this sloppy journalism or more reinforcement for the mind of the casual reader? The Pentagon has never admitted to releasing the 'tic-tac' video. All any 'official' Pentagon staff have admitted is that AATIP produced a lot of paperwork and little else. There is no admittance that the video released was either classified, de-classified or otherwise. In fact it seems from the report that Cmdr. Fravor took it upon himself to copy the video for his own purposes.Isn't that against official Navy protocols?

Once again we see that TTSA have gone silent and their media-friends are drip feeding further stories out there. Sadly the attention to detail in the reporting means this is all still being portrayed as a story that the Pentagon were responsible for releasing along with the video(s). When that isn't the case at all and is easily checked.

We should also question why this report suddenly appears now. Why it was not made available at the time of the NYT article in Dec 2017 if it wasn't really confidential?

It's really looking like, as far as the Pentagon was concerned, this wasn't about UFOs at all. But a group of people still want it to appear that way.

a reply to: mirageman

You know how the military hasn't chased after "UFOs" for a very long time?

Perhaps it's because they know what it is, and it's just not a "big deal"?

As the MoD would say.. no defense significance. (if you leave it alone that is).

If it has no defense significance.. and that's what all the evidence suggests..
then a priori that suggests that there was no technology of any kind involved.

When technology is involved.. or thought to be involved, the government,
Bigelow, and the Occult Scientstis get a huge "woody".

No woody?

No technology.

It's that simple.

Now the usual, tiresome, uninformed opinion might surface, that the government
knows exactly what technology is involved, as it is "theirs".

But that is extremely unlikely in this and most similar cases.

Just my input.

Kev

PS:

It certainly seems to me that it was multiple incidents conflated into one
"story".

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: mirageman

You know how the military hasn't chased after "UFOs" for a very long time?

Well I'll have to disagree.

It's not because it isn't public that they haven't chased it.

I find it extremely hard to believe that THERE ARE unidentified objects flying in the U.S. air space and the government doesn't care.

What about the $21 trillion missing from the Pentagon budget?

With a T.

a reply to: vinifalou

Well that's the point you are missing.

There are no "objects".

That's why there is no point chasing after them.

Everyone assumed at first, that there were "objects".

The government. The military. The occult scientists. Bigelow.
(hard to distinguish that bunch.. they are always holding hands)

When it was proven to Bigelow that there was no technology to be
had at SWR, he left.

Talk to me about radar locks all you want... about radiation damage
to people... and even the few cases when some guy shoots at "them"
and it richochets off.

Still no object there.

It drives the occult scientists crazy to this very day.

Once you understand that.. you can start to disinfect your brain of
the disinformation that certain parties keep shovelling into you,
to direct you away from "disclosure".

Kev

PS:

As for the military spending?

Oh there's no doubt.. the Military is trying DESPERATELY to "weaponize"
the Phenomenon.. or at least build those big honking plasma cannons..
And the Camo.. and the radar absorbing/diffusing layers on plane tips..
and plasma envelopes on planes.. all that stuff..

They want to build the "UFOs" which don't actually exist..

But its all fear and jealousy based on ignorance.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

You're starting from the premise that there are no objects, but you can't prove that.

I'll agree with you, they want to build the UFOs. But I won't say that they don't exist because this is speculation and I don't speculate.

Having a mother that tells us to this day that she saw a huge spaceship producing heat and flying silently above her home when she was a teenager and lived in the farm, I'm more tended to believe in the existence of such objects. Especially because she's an very christian woman, and having no idea what an UFO is or ever having interest in the subject.

But sooner or later we'll all find out if we are or if we are not being visited.

a reply to: vinifalou

I know that it's nearly impossible to let go of the "nuts and bolts delusion",
despite the fact there is no evidence for it.

There is plenty of evidence for my position.. but you'd have to pry it from
the cold dead hands of the occult scientists for the most part.

I'm fairly certain that there won't be any definitive 'disclosure' during
this century.. there's a couple things in the wings that have to happen
first.

But enjoy the journey.

Kev

a reply to: mirageman

Awesome post MM as usual, yes the narrative is very tightly controlled and the inconsistencies just mount up the more that is "disclosed".

I did post this in another thread but found it interesting enough that I will add in here to. I went back and listened to the 4hr TDL interview on C2C back in 2016 and its quite interesting holding up what we know now and what he was stating back then.

As far as controlling the narrative what I found quite amusing was that he was asked by his handlers/advisory team to do a "radio interview" - It all appeared to be a legit interview and it was only at the conclusion of this "interview" that TDL stated he was told the "interview" was actually fake. It was his handlers / "advisers" that conducted it so they could train him how to answer certain questions and how to answer specific topics. They literally trained him how to talk, literally.

I find this rather funny...but also disturbing at the same time

a reply to: vinifalou

I'm starting from the premise that nuts and bolts craft have
never been proven, which they haven't.

Kev