Are UFOs Probes from the Future Recording Significant World Events?

I was just pondering this question after reading again about the Mothman and how it has been suggested that the Mothman appeared as a kind of harbinger to the Point Pleasant bridge collapse. Is there any study of the data that shows an increase in UFO sightings and reports happening before significant historical events? That might be a good indicator of source and intent.

I suppose the hard part of determining any real correlation would be deciding what constitutes a "significant historical event." Sometimes history takes a while to unfold, and a small seemingly insignificant thing can snowball to produce something earth-shattering. The Point Pleasant bridge collapse, for instance, might qualify as a "significant event," but it wasn't all that devastating, really. Unless somebody died in the collapse who would have later in the future gone on to do something big. Who would know?

Anyway. Just thought I'd loft this out there.

A fascinating possiblity. it's not too far fetched to think in the distant future when humanity is long extinct, that the Greys and others are the result of an A.I. evolving beyond a digital entity and designing itself in a more biological format. maybe they do come back here from the future to study what they evolved from and get ideas on how to become more like thier progenitors.

I think it's very possible too.

If you think about the UFOs paintings that we've seen in history, they all happened in a significant time that we can see now.

Maybe that's why they started showing up again in the World War II. Do you think we're getting closer to a War?

Not sure tough about the A.I. hypothesis, maybe it's just too much for my small and humble brain.

What a fascinating idea? these could be time travelling tourists. So main events in the 20th Century would be:
** Apollo mission to the moon (as we have not gone back for 50 years)
** Major WW 2 war events (Foo fighters coming to mind)
** Early atomic bombs / testing

Could have been like 911 the bridge designer knew it was going to collapse prematurely sometime.
So the mothman shows up a year early and saves 16 people?

originally posted by: Cauliflower
So the mothman shows up a year early and saves 16 people?

I see these probes as being pretty passive. Just recording. I'm just wondering if there has ever been a check of the databases to see if there was a correlation.

a reply to: templar knight

That's what I was thinking. But these need not be Time Travelers. More like foreign tourists visiting a zoo named Earth.

a reply to: Blue Shift

As far as I know there has never been an official time travelers guide with the maze of door locations all listed.
The old fictional Dr Who series on the tele may have been written by someone in the know so you could look for clues there.

originally posted by: Cauliflower
As far as I know there has never been an official time travelers guide with the maze of door locations all listed.

Except for the one the Time Bandits stole from God, right?

a reply to: Blue Shift

I suppose the hard part of determining any real correlation would be deciding what constitutes a "significant historical event."

If you lived on Pluto and you saw the New Horizons probe fly by, you would think that was a historical event.

The one time I saw a 'thingy', it behaved like I would expect an other worldly probe to behave. It was a once in a life time event for me and those I was with that witnessed it.

Definitely a historical moment.

originally posted by: Blue Shift
I was just pondering this question after reading again about the Mothman and how it has been suggested that the Mothman appeared as a kind of harbinger to the Point Pleasant bridge collapse. Is there any study of the data that shows an increase in UFO sightings and reports happening before significant historical events? That might be a good indicator of source and intent.

I suppose the hard part of determining any real correlation would be deciding what constitutes a "significant historical event." Sometimes history takes a while to unfold, and a small seemingly insignificant thing can snowball to produce something earth-shattering. The Point Pleasant bridge collapse, for instance, might qualify as a "significant event," but it wasn't all that devastating, really. Unless somebody died in the collapse who would have later in the future gone on to do something big. Who would know?

Anyway. Just thought I'd loft this out there.

I would like to think that UFO's are observing significant historical events because I had a close encounter where I was observed (well, at least my movements were followed by its window).

I was pre-teen at the time and was taking a bush track, beside a creek, in a reserve near to my home.

The track was about 12 feet higher up than the creek level and had been put in as a fire break. Both the track and creek were in a 'cut-out' or small valley with bushland rising on either side.

My eye-line was slightly above the mid-line of the craft when I noticed it (it was silent and I must have walked some way towards it along the track before being aware of its presence).

It rose slightly during the encounter and rotated as I skirted around it on the track (it was above the creek).

I would estimate that it would have been about 20 feet in diameter and 5 feet high at it's thickest. It was metal, like brushed aluminium and I couldn't see any seams or rivets. It was almost the fairly classic 'lens shaped' UFO but it was also a bit like a squashed teardrop with the thin edge to its rear. Definitiely complex curves and aerodynamic. It had a 'tail' that stuck up at the back and two small 'winglets' sticking out horizontally and a bit 'up' as well, at the back. Like early NASA 'flying wing' designs but probably looked more circular or oval from the top.

There was a conical 'spike' sticking up about 3 feet from the 'tail', which I felt was an aerial. The 'window' at the front, was rectangular (as rectangular as could be expected on such a curved surface). It was about 10 inches high and wrapped probably around 7 feet of the front of the craft. It had rectangular corners, too, no signs of rounding like with a conventional aircraft. The window was dark and I couldn't see any details within but its surface was reflective, like glass, and it followed the curves of the craft very smoothly.

There was no noise and the water of the creek below it wasn't disturbed, or any more turbulent than the natural flow over the rocks would cause.

The whole encounter was very silent I know that because the sound of my shoes crunching the gravel of the track seemed loud. I remember trying to tread carefully, lest I 'disturb' the craft. I also didn't sense any heat or anything coming from the craft. There was actually no sense of 'presence' and I don't think the craft was 'manned'. I actually felt as though perhaps it wasn't really 'there' at all?

When it moved, the movements were very controlled and deliberate. There was no wobble or sudden jerks. If you have ever watched a 'steadycam' mechanism, it seemed to move like that.

After some time (minutes?) the craft turned its window away from me and appeared to recede into the distance. This was, of course, impossible due to the close terrain. It just got smaller or more distant and then was gone.

At the time, I felt that I had been specifically observed (I was alone in an isolated 'bush' location) and could discern no other reason for the encounter.

But the feeling of my personal significance in the encounter could have been just my ego. It could have been that they were there for some other purpose and I just stumbled across it at random.

a reply to: Blue Shift

just skip to 45 seconds, maybe mute the audio.

Should earthly time travel become unblocked shortly, if its not policed by the greatest of minds, we'd be in for a terrible loss of freedoms.

Since you cant travel back in time, no they're not.

K~

Very interesting thread! We know very little of the dimension known as "time".

i have already considered this theory and to me its an "maybe" alongside jose caravacas distortion theory and jacques vallee interdimensional one

a reply to: Blue Shift

We are talking about the moth man, as far as I know he only got as far as putting his hand on Gods gate

originally posted by: aethertek
Since you cant travel back in time, no they're not.

I don't think I can prove that negative, so I feel free to speculate.

a reply to: Blue Shift

Well since you like to ponder, consider the fact that to "travel back in time" it would require the ability to literally undo reality & return it to it's former state.

The Now is a continuation & culmination of countless interactions between matter & energy taken place over time.

One would need undo all of those events to return to the Then.

I give possibility to the fact that there may be echoes of reality but that would require dimensional travel not time.

K~

originally posted by: aethertek
One would need undo all of those events to return to the Then.

I suspect that by changing certain things, a lot of other things will automatically change. Butterfly effect and all.

I give possibility to the fact that there may be echoes of reality but that would require dimensional travel not time.

Well, perhaps that is why they're so passive and elusive. A quick sighting here and there then vanishing into... I don't know where. A future that no longer exists for them? Or maybe after they've transmitted their information back to the future, they naturally cease to exist. You can transport yourself or something into the past, but it's a one-way trip.

One of the difficulties in making any kind of changes in what we perceive as the "past," is that time is a personal thing, which is why mathematics sucks at trying to explain it. I agree with you that time is not a dimension, per se, but more like temperature. A varying rate of quantum flux between real and virtual states, but from an individual perspective. If I was somehow able to project my consciousness to a point where the universe was in a particular configuration that we could call "the past," my individual timeline continues to creep steadily onward to my inevitable death. The old timeline that I remember is gone, but I still carry along its quantum fingerprint as a memory.

Makes me wonder, though. Was Dallas, Texas, buzzing with time probes around late November, 1963? Any significant increase in UFO sightings or reports? Maybe I'll look into it. I'm horribly lazy.