Is Something Neurologically Wrong With Donald Trump?

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: Liquesence

Most likely NO!

That nonsense video shows that your argument is the same.

I'm sorry you're so triggered (or trolling).

You can...Carry on.

a reply to: Liquesence

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a reply to: Liquesence

Your argument has no fact, just a viral remix video. Seriously, that's all you have for evidence!?? The only thing you triggered in me is my laughing at the lack of evidence. Since this isn't the mud pit let's stay on topic and off the personal attacks. The facts posted here show no proof positive of Donald Trump's insanity.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

Now you're purposefully pushing BS to deflect.

Why?

a reply to: Liquesence

Not BS, court records. Read it. Facts you wanted me to prove from what I said. Where's your solid proof Trump is mentally ill? HINT: Satirical remix videos are NOT PROOF!

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: Liquesence

Your argument has no fact, just a viral remix video. Seriously, that's all you have for evidence!?? The only thing you triggered in me is my laughing at your evidence. Since this isn't the mud pit let's stay on topic and off the personal attacks. The facts posted here show no proof positive of Donald Trump's insanity.

Thank you for the laugh; I'm sorry you're triggered.

And yes, he's nuts.

I have not seen a shred of tangible evidence Trump is mentally impaired on these posts. Just satirical remix videos and armchair jockeys playing psychologist. Some people just never got over the election I guess.

Those that know, KNOW. His mental acuity is pretty impressive..."demonstrably so" as some have said.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

Based upon what! Your biased opinion!??

Reality.

a reply to: Liquesence

And you are a psychologist and you've examined Trump!?? No, I didn't think so. Come back when you have real evidence instead of playing doctor.

I didn't like it when people diagnosed Hillary on videos alone either.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

I have not seen a shred of tangible evidence Trump is mentally impaired on these posts. Just satirical remix videos

Then you admit you've never actually watched or listened to him.

He's Nuckin' Futz.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: Liquesence

And you are a psychologist and you've examined Trump!?? No, I didn't think so. Come back when you have real evidence instead of playing doctor.

Why so...


Triggered?

a reply to: thepixelpusher

Its sheep following the opposition narrative.

Collusion
Sexist/rapist
Liar
Deplorable
Demented/insane


But Trump is mean for insulting people

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: bgerbger

Just your opinion. And opinions are like buttholes. We all have them.

Are you a psychologist and did you examine Donald Trump? Thought not, but you'll make an opinion on pure guesswork. I can see where you're coming from...unicornland.

Obviously you don't know how to read or lack reading comprehension, as you haven't looked at the difference between the way Trump spoke in the 80s and how he speaks and tweets now, referenced in the OP.

In fact I doubt you even read and just reacted like the usual ignorant Trumpeter.

Seeing that you love Natural News so much this doesn't surprise me. Do they have a coloring in page for you?

a reply to: bgerbger

And what evidence do you show? Nothing, just video clips. Hardly a scientific diagnosis. A playschool doctor kit doesn't cut it.

a reply to: bgerbger

And despite a lack of eloquence he won the election and made it through a few debates.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
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And you are a psychologist and you've examined Trump!?? No, I didn't think so. Come back when you have real evidence instead of playing doctor.
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I'm going to assume that not even professional mental health professionals would be able to convince you.

The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President

...Since the start of Donald Trump’s presidential run, one question has quietly but urgently permeated the observations of concerned citizens: What is wrong with him? Constrained by the American Psychiatric Association’s “Goldwater rule,” which inhibits mental health professionals from diagnosing public figures they have not personally examined, many of those qualified to answer this question have shied away from discussing the issue at all. The public has thus been left to wonder whether he is mad, bad, or both.

In THE DANGEROUS CASE OF DONALD TRUMP, twenty-seven psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health experts argue that, in Mr. Trump’s case, their moral and civic “duty to warn” America supersedes professional neutrality. They then explore Trump’s symptoms and potentially relevant diagnoses to find a complex, if also dangerously mad, man.

Philip Zimbardo and Rosemary Sword, for instance, explain Trump’s impulsivity in terms of “unbridled and extreme present hedonism.” Craig Malkin writes on pathological narcissism and politics as a lethal mix. Gail Sheehy, on a lack of trust that exceeds paranoia. Lance Dodes, on sociopathy. Robert Jay Lifton, on the “malignant normality” that can set in everyday life if psychiatrists do not speak up.

His madness is catching, too. From the trauma people have experienced under the Trump administration to the cult-like characteristics of his followers, he has created unprecedented mental health consequences across our nation and beyond.

It’s not all in our heads. It’s in his.
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See also Twilight of American Sanity by Allen Frances. Allen Frances is considered "one of the world's most prominent psychiatrists" and was past leader of the American Psychiatric Association’s DSM. He is also someone that is very critical of psychiatrists' over-diagnosis of patients.

Also you cannot deny the fact that Fred Trump had Alzheimer's disease. While it is by no way a definite indication that Trump will get the disease, it does increase the chances.

Alzheimer's Disease risk factors - SOURCE

...Age
The greatest known risk factor for Alzheimer’s is increasing age. Most individuals with the disease are 65 and older. One in nine people in this age group and nearly one-third of people age 85 and older have Alzheimer’s...

There is already a statistical chance of more than 10% that Trump has Alzheimer's.

Family history
Another strong risk factor is family history. Those who have a parent, brother or sister with Alzheimer’s are more likely to develop the disease. The risk increases if more than one family member has the illness. When diseases tend to run in families, either heredity (genetics) or environmental factors, or both, may play a role...

See Fred Trump.

Genetics (heredity)
Scientists know genes are involved in Alzheimer’s. Two categories of genes influence whether a person develops a disease: risk genes and deterministic genes. Alzheimer's genes have been found in both categories...

While we don't have access to his genes - the key word is still "heredity".

Even if you wish to discard 28+ health professional's opinions, you cannot deny the FACT that is age-related memory loss.

With age comes the increasing likelihood of developing memory loss. The mildest form, age associated memory impairment, is characterised by self perception of memory loss and a standardised memory test score showing a decline in objective memory performance compared with younger adults. About 40% of people aged 65 or older have age associated memory impairment—in the United States, about 16 million people. Only about 1% of them will progress to dementia each year.

Mild cognitive impairment represents a more severe form of memory loss and is often defined by important memory deficits without functional impairments. Although patients with mild cognitive impairment are able to continue to live independently, they show objective memory impairments similar to those seen in people with very mild Alzheimer's disease. About 10% of people aged 65 years or older have mild cognitive impairment, and nearly 15% of them develop Alzheimer's disease each year. Studies of drugs to treat mild cognitive impairment in order to delay the onset of Alzheimer's disease are currently in progress.
Source

Running the risk of being accused of "ageism" it just makes scientific/logical sense not to have such an old person run a country or any position of important decision-making. He may have experience, but his mind is not as sharp as it used to be. This is a fact, not an opinion. Go watch interviews of younger Trump vs. recent interviews. Anyone that doesn't see a difference is lying to themselves.

Trump is having senior moments. Visual and audio evidence confirm this. Statistical and scientific evidence/facts confirm this. The only question is whether it is just ordinary age-related memory loss (misplacing items, forgetting names and words, forgetting appointments, walking into a room and not remembering why, easy distracted, etc.) or a more dangerous form of dementia.

a reply to: Gemwolf

None of these people personally assessed him. Unless you embrace malpractice, this is no better. I didn't like it when Hillary was assessed this way and I don't like this armchair video assessment with Trump either.

a reply to: Gemwolf

Donald Trump is a public personality. A persona. Crafted after a couple decades of tabloid and entertainment.

To diagnose him without an actual clinical session is like diagnosing Howard Stern the radio host, who has already been through the explanation of how his on air persona is nothing like him personally

Ive met many celebrities, and they arent what you generally expect. They act nothing like their entertainment personality (for the most part). Robin Williams is a great example (i never met him, but heard several stories about him just like this one. In person he was normal, mundane, and reserved. In front of a group of people he transformed into the manic entertainer we knew as Robin Williams.

Essentially, these academics are trying to diagnose a persona, not a person. Their scientific input is as valuable as is typically seen from people with a liberal arts phd.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

I'm going to assume that not even professional mental health professionals would be able to convince you.

But you'll believe this guy?

'K.

And giving the facts part a skip then?
'K.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
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Donald Trump is a public personality. A persona. Crafted after a couple decades of tabloid and entertainment.

To diagnose him without an actual clinical session is like diagnosing Howard Stern the radio host, who has already been through the explanation of how his on air persona is nothing like him personally
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Essentially, these academics are trying to diagnose a persona, not a person. Their scientific input is as valuable as is typically seen from people with a liberal arts phd.

But you don't know that for a fact, do you? It's just a guess or an opinion - not based on any fact? For all we know what we see is what we get.

And psychiatrists are "people with a liberal arts phd"? So there isn't really someone that is qualified enough to diagnose Trump? Makes the discussion mute, doesn't it?

But let's pretend that what we see on Fox and friends and CNN and Morning Joe and whatever show tickles your fancy, is nothing but a persona... Let's pretend that the persona is just a narcissistic, clumsy goofball, and the real Trump is a mentally stable genius that is calculating each and every move and Tweet... Is he this "persona" 24/7?

Should we again ignore the words of those close to him?

Former Wharton Professor: "Donald Trump Was the Dumbest Goddam Student I Ever Had."

Said long before Trump got involved in politics
Was Trump already a genius strategist back then - fooling his professors into thinking he was an idiot?

Rex Tillerson - Secretary of State: "Tillerson Reportedly Called Trump a '***** Moron' After He Called For a 10x Increase in the Country's Nukes"

Republican Senator Bob Corker: “The president has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate to be successful,” and describe the White House as “adult day care”.

Republican Senator Susan Collins and Democratic Senator Jack Reed caught on a hot mic: “I think – I think he’s crazy,” Reed said. “I mean, I don’t say that lightly and as a kind of a goofy guy.”
“I’m worried,” Collins replied.

ex-FBI director, James B. Comey: Trump is "outside the realm of normal” and “crazy”

This was before being fired.

It brought into the open what several people close to the president have recently told me in private: that Trump is “unstable,” “losing a step,” and “unraveling.”
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In recent days, I spoke with a half dozen prominent Republicans and Trump advisers, and they all describe a White House in crisis as advisers struggle to contain a president who seems to be increasingly unfocused and consumed by dark moods.
As per Gabriel Sherman - October 2017

Tony Schwartz, co-author of "The Art of the Deal," gives his opinion on President Donald Trump's behavior:

(And if there's someone that knows the persona vs the real guy, it would be Schwartz, not?)

And finally there's the Michael Wolff saga which authenticity is still up in the air:

Everybody [in the White House] was painfully aware of the increasing pace of his repetitions. It used to be inside of 30 minutes he’d repeat, word-for-word and expression-for-expression, the same three stories — now it was within 10 minutes. Indeed, many of his tweets were the product of his repetitions — he just couldn’t stop saying something.
… Hoping for the best, with their personal futures as well as the country’s future depending on it, my indelible impression of talking to them and observing them through much of the first year of his presidency, is that they all — 100 percent — came to believe he was incapable of functioning in his job.
At Mar-a-Lago, just before the new year, a heavily made-up Trump failed to recognize a succession of old friends.
Some News Rag

I guess I can dig up even more examples, but I have a feeling I can dig up 1,000 examples, it would not sway any opinion. Am I right?

So, honest question - what exactly would it take for a Trump supporter to get concerned? What does Trump have to do, before Trump supporters go "Wow. That was a bit...uhm... crazy"? Or is it true what Trump said? That he could stand on New York’s Fifth Avenue “and shoot somebody” and still not lose voters? Tell me this is not true.
That would make this conversation, and any other conversation pointless.