President Trump has made 1,950 false or misleading claims over 347 days

here is something different?

Picking a side is the same as accepting defeat?

Neutral party rule is on the horizon?

a reply to: Southern Guardian

What i find most odd is that there is an apparent concerted effort to push the old Hillary ("weve got our fact checkers") narrative of "Trump lies".

Ive no doubt he lies. But if this database was not put it place for prior presidents i have to wonder why its suddenly meaningful.

And since when do we measure a POTUS honesty on anything other than campaign promises?

a reply to: Southern Guardian

OK, so he's a liar, but is he as good as 'if you like your health care plan, you can keep it' liar or a sniper-fire-liar?

Sounds like hes is just being extremely careless without intent - case closed.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
Edit: Going one further, if Obama hadn’t ridiculed Trump in response to Birther nonsense likely he wouldn’t have even ran for POTUS.

This right here. Had Mr. Obama not tried to be a comedian (which he never will be) and made fun of POTUS 45 at a dinner while Mr. Obama was on duty as POTUS 44, we would, for sure, currently have a different POTUS 45 right now (and it STILL wouldn’t have been HRC, arguably the most flawed presidential candidate in US history).

So....”THANKS OBAMA!”, as POTUS 44 likes to chime...

a reply to: Southern Guardian

It would take an encyclopedia Britannica to list Trumps lies.

Trumps lies could bring down an Amazon server!

Lol trump :-) :-) :-)

Trumps is finally number one in something. hahaha liar of the year

Indeed you have to sort Trump lies out in volumes based on the alphabet just like the old encyclopedias. Or maybe you could break them up according to the months they were spoken.

Indeed a wonderful holiday volume for the kids:

Trumps Lies from January to Christmas

Or maybe this is better, they can be listed by the first letter in the lies sentence

Like this lie:

"We had as many people in the inauguration as Obama did"

We could put that lie in the W volume since it starts with a w letter.

Indeed, I bet Trump has lied using every word in the alphabet

This one would be called Trumps lies from A to Z

Make a great coffee table book

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Trumps is finally number one in something. hahaha liar of the year

Pretty sure he was number one the second he beat Hillary...haha...winner of the next 8 years!

a reply to: Willtell

You would need a solid coffee table to take the weight of that book.

originally posted by: Willtell
Indeed you have to sort Trump lies out in volumes based on the alphabet just like the old encyclopedias. Or maybe you could break them up according to the months they were spoken.

Indeed a wonderful holiday volume for the kids:

Trumps Lies from January to Christmas

Or maybe this is better, they can be listed by the first letter in the lies sentence

Like this lie:

"We had as many people in the inauguration as Obama did"

We could put that lie in the W volume since it starts with a w letter.

Indeed, I bet Trump has lied using every word in the alphabet

This one would be called Trumps lies from A to Z

Make a great coffee table book

Wow...you only have a year of lies from Trump? There's 35+ from the loser....and 8+ from the prior POTUS.

Any chance you kept your doctor?

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: underwerks

Ok, what results made you support Trump when he was barely in office and hadn't picked up his EO ink pen?

Hopefully it's more than just winning the election.

What I do is defend him—anyone—from the puritan thought-police. The results of a Trump presidency will not be available until it is finished. Until then I reserve judgement.

I can understand that.

But I still disagree. I see the Trump of right now as the same Trump he's always been, just strained with age. The only thing that has changed in my opinion is the inclusion of Bannon style propaganda to shift his image in a favorable direction, which is something all presidential candidates participate in.

I can't deny that. And I can't deny everything he's done up until this point in hope that this one time everything will be different.

I agree with you. Trump is the same Trump, only with a different job title. That's why it concerns me when he and his supporters are compared to Hitler and nazis.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Willtell
Indeed you have to sort Trump lies out in volumes based on the alphabet just like the old encyclopedias. Or maybe you could break them up according to the months they were spoken.

Indeed a wonderful holiday volume for the kids:

Trumps Lies from January to Christmas

Or maybe this is better, they can be listed by the first letter in the lies sentence

Like this lie:

"We had as many people in the inauguration as Obama did"

We could put that lie in the W volume since it starts with a w letter.

Indeed, I bet Trump has lied using every word in the alphabet

This one would be called Trumps lies from A to Z

Make a great coffee table book

Wow...you only have a year of lies from Trump? There's 35+ from the loser....and 8+ from the prior POTUS.

Any chance you kept your doctor?

Since the more Trump accomplishes, the louder and more outlandish the whiners become, let's hope that they accuse him of lying 100,000 times in 2018!

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: underwerks

Ok, what results made you support Trump when he was barely in office and hadn't picked up his EO ink pen?

Hopefully it's more than just winning the election.

What I do is defend him—anyone—from the puritan thought-police. The results of a Trump presidency will not be available until it is finished. Until then I reserve judgement.

I can understand that.

But I still disagree. I see the Trump of right now as the same Trump he's always been, just strained with age. The only thing that has changed in my opinion is the inclusion of Bannon style propaganda to shift his image in a favorable direction, which is something all presidential candidates participate in.

I can't deny that. And I can't deny everything he's done up until this point in hope that this one time everything will be different.

I agree with you. Trump is the same Trump, only with a different job title. That's why it concerns me when he and his supporters are compared to Hitler and nazis.

That's just Hillary supporters that think you're all nazis, most other people I speak to just think trump supporters are delusional.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Willtell

You would need a solid coffee table to take the weight of that book.

How about granite steel

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: underwerks

Ok, what results made you support Trump when he was barely in office and hadn't picked up his EO ink pen?

Hopefully it's more than just winning the election.

What I do is defend him—anyone—from the puritan thought-police. The results of a Trump presidency will not be available until it is finished. Until then I reserve judgement.

I can understand that.

But I still disagree. I see the Trump of right now as the same Trump he's always been, just strained with age. The only thing that has changed in my opinion is the inclusion of Bannon style propaganda to shift his image in a favorable direction, which is something all presidential candidates participate in.

I can't deny that. And I can't deny everything he's done up until this point in hope that this one time everything will be different.

I agree with you. Trump is the same Trump, only with a different job title. That's why it concerns me when he and his supporters are compared to Hitler and nazis.

That's just Hillary supporters that think you're all nazis, most other people I speak to just think trump supporters are delusional.

Delusional : characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

Sounds like every news outlet the libs parrot daily that said Hillary would win....

Funny that you'd like to deem Trump supporters delusional though....pretty sure you'll lose this debate every time.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Willtell
Indeed you have to sort Trump lies out in volumes based on the alphabet just like the old encyclopedias. Or maybe you could break them up according to the months they were spoken.

Indeed a wonderful holiday volume for the kids:

Trumps Lies from January to Christmas

Or maybe this is better, they can be listed by the first letter in the lies sentence

Like this lie:

"We had as many people in the inauguration as Obama did"

We could put that lie in the W volume since it starts with a w letter.

Indeed, I bet Trump has lied using every word in the alphabet

This one would be called Trumps lies from A to Z

Make a great coffee table book

Wow...you only have a year of lies from Trump? There's 35+ from the loser....and 8+ from the prior POTUS.

Any chance you kept your doctor?

Oh yeah, GREAT IDEA

A new volume

Trumps lies of the Future


Or we could call it:

Trumps Infinite Lies

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Willtell

You would need a solid coffee table to take the weight of that book.

You'd need a library for Obama and Clintons....oh...wait....there are libraries....

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I have no doubt, politicians are professional liars.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: underwerks

Ok, what results made you support Trump when he was barely in office and hadn't picked up his EO ink pen?

Hopefully it's more than just winning the election.

What I do is defend him—anyone—from the puritan thought-police. The results of a Trump presidency will not be available until it is finished. Until then I reserve judgement.

I can understand that.

But I still disagree. I see the Trump of right now as the same Trump he's always been, just strained with age. The only thing that has changed in my opinion is the inclusion of Bannon style propaganda to shift his image in a favorable direction, which is something all presidential candidates participate in.

I can't deny that. And I can't deny everything he's done up until this point in hope that this one time everything will be different.

I agree with you. Trump is the same Trump, only with a different job title. That's why it concerns me when he and his supporters are compared to Hitler and nazis.

That's just Hillary supporters that think you're all nazis, most other people I speak to just think trump supporters are delusional.

Delusional : characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

Sounds like every news outlet the libs parrot daily that said Hillary would win....

Funny that you'd like to deem Trump supporters delusional though....pretty sure you'll lose this debate every time.

I can't help it if people feel that way.