Tehran's brutallity opens path for Trump to flex on Iran

a reply to: intrptr
I do not think that it will come to that. Unlike Iraq to the Mediterranean Sea, Iran was never really divided by the individual tribes or different in religions.

99% of the population of Iran are Shi’a and the rest are a minority. And as far as national identity, unlike many of the other countries in the area, the Iranians, are Persians, and have been such for a long time. And the last time that there was a revolution/coup it was done smoothly and there was a fast transition from the old government to the new.
Now with that in mind, as long as the USA stays out of it, and watches, then Iran will be able to work this out, fully and completely. A lot now depends on the people of Iran. If they continue and can get the military to back them, then the current government will fall and a new one will come into power. If the military backs the religious government, then this will fail.

The point here, is that by not interfering, it gives the moderate voices in Iran a stronger claim. But if the USA gets involved, then it will give the hard line voices more ammunition and ultimately force the silence of the moderate voices.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

I do not think that it will come to that.

Every 'intervention' has ended up exactly like that.

You coold try naming one that didn't... Iraq, Libya, Syria, ...

Iran is the prize.

Average people have no idea how deep the resentment towards Iran is in the Pentagon. They never forget; the deposed Shah, The Iran Embassy hostage crisis, the failed rescue effort in the desert, the failed attempt to subjugate Iran during the Iraq / Iran war...


So far every effort in that region is directed at nations surrounding Iran so as to isolate it and weaken it politically and economically. Now the internal struggle begins, just like Libya and Syria, now it stretches from here, to full blown insurgency directed at nothing less than Regime Change and subjugation of Iran.

"Tehran" isn't surrounding itself with US military bases, is it?

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a reply to: intrptr

Oh I have not forgotten the deposing of the Shah of Iran. Course it was the CIA intervention that returned the Shah to power, and removed the lawfully elected prime minister of Iran, and the Iranians have not forgotten that. Nor did they forget the thousands of CIA documents that were carefully pieced together after the embassy was stormed and looked at exactly the USA was doing in their country and it pissed them off. Who could blame them, they were being used.

No Tehran is not being surrounded by US military bases, however, the country of Iran is facing the USA on 3 sides, and that does not make it happy. 2 sides is bad enough but three, is not a good thing. With US bases in Iraq, and Afghanistan and in Saudi Arabia and some of the other countries on the Arabian pen, that is not what it wants to see. Tensions have always been high in that part of the world.

Why do you guys pick and choose which country's human rights abuses to take action on? Plenty of other ones...allies included.

a reply to: intrptr

That's all their fault for Declaring Independence from the American Empire. They go and have a tea party and they'll never be forgiven for such disloyalty. Long live the king!

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

That's all their fault for Declaring Independence from the American Empire.

There, fixed that for you.

Using a little imagination and looking inside the box what if ?

They put their people on the ground while saying that they haven’t got any people on the ground. Then they get the rebels (mercenaries) to attack the regime.

At this point no-one says a word – no government reaction, no media reaction. Then, the regime will respond to that attack, at which point trigger everybody – microphones everywhere.

Media, off you go – “He’s killing his own people!” And so they then create hysteria and a madness.
We (NATO) have to go in and bomb the regime to protect the people from violence. And they bomb the crap out of the place, slaughter masses of people, destroy cities......

What we’re looking at here is not protecting civilians, just as it never was protecting civilians.

Another country goes on the list.