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originally posted by: Eshel
Asked in the other thread... gonna ask here.
it's a natural cycle that will adjust as it has for billions of years.
Climate change has been around long before humans even existed.
It is normal period. Alarmists blaming a years weather on a 4.5 billion year history of changes.
How do we know this information? Is there a written history somewhere? Or are you all just pulling this outta your a**es
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: underwerks
People trying to scam money doesn't make climate change fake. Despite what the huge oil companies may tell you.
No, continually failed predictions whilst asking for money makes the whole thing no more than a religion.
What predictions by climate scientists are you talking about?
How about the 50m climate refugees by 2010?
How about the actual temperature rises they predicted being way off? You know the key information we are supposed to act upon...since 1988 the estimates have been continually revised down after the initial scaremongering. By 2007, the IPCC had released several models ranging from 1.1 degrees to 6.4 degrees by 2100! Which model is the settled science???? Their 2013 effort was not much better - they just added more models. All of the money and models and their best effort now is... erm, it might have an effect in 83 years time, but it might not. In other words, they don't f****** know, yet the braindead climate change pushers keep droning on about settled science.
Have you actually read "An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and Its Implications for United States National Security" released by the Pentagon in 2003?
How about back in 2000, the Climatic Research Unit's bold claim that the Uk would have no more snow?
Shall we dip into Al Gore's predictions based on the rubbish his scientist friends were feeding him??
We could have an entire thread just on the hapless efforts of these scientists and their spokespeople/puppet masters.
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: underwerks
People trying to scam money doesn't make climate change fake. Despite what the huge oil companies may tell you.
No, continually failed predictions whilst asking for money makes the whole thing no more than a religion.
What predictions by climate scientists are you talking about?
How about the 50m climate refugees by 2010?
How about the actual temperature rises they predicted being way off? You know the key information we are supposed to act upon...since 1988 the estimates have been continually revised down after the initial scaremongering. By 2007, the IPCC had released several models ranging from 1.1 degrees to 6.4 degrees by 2100! Which model is the settled science???? Their 2013 effort was not much better - they just added more models. All of the money and models and their best effort now is... erm, it might have an effect in 83 years time, but it might not. In other words, they don't f****** know, yet the braindead climate change pushers keep droning on about settled science.
Have you actually read "An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and Its Implications for United States National Security" released by the Pentagon in 2003?
How about back in 2000, the Climatic Research Unit's bold claim that the Uk would have no more snow?
Shall we dip into Al Gore's predictions based on the rubbish his scientist friends were feeding him??
We could have an entire thread just on the hapless efforts of these scientists and their spokespeople/puppet masters.
Please, post evidence and links. Specific points that prove your position that climate science is a worldwide scam.
I'll wait.
originally posted by: CulturalResilience
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: underwerks
People trying to scam money doesn't make climate change fake. Despite what the huge oil companies may tell you.
No, continually failed predictions whilst asking for money makes the whole thing no more than a religion.
What predictions by climate scientists are you talking about?
How about the 50m climate refugees by 2010?
How about the actual temperature rises they predicted being way off? You know the key information we are supposed to act upon...since 1988 the estimates have been continually revised down after the initial scaremongering. By 2007, the IPCC had released several models ranging from 1.1 degrees to 6.4 degrees by 2100! Which model is the settled science???? Their 2013 effort was not much better - they just added more models. All of the money and models and their best effort now is... erm, it might have an effect in 83 years time, but it might not. In other words, they don't f****** know, yet the braindead climate change pushers keep droning on about settled science.
Have you actually read "An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and Its Implications for United States National Security" released by the Pentagon in 2003?
How about back in 2000, the Climatic Research Unit's bold claim that the Uk would have no more snow?
Shall we dip into Al Gore's predictions based on the rubbish his scientist friends were feeding him??
We could have an entire thread just on the hapless efforts of these scientists and their spokespeople/puppet masters.
Please, post evidence and links. Specific points that prove your position that climate science is a worldwide scam.
I'll wait.
In other words, Prove a Negative.
LOL, some of the 90% of scientists who suck the titties of AGW, also studied the past by Ice core samples, tree rings, and soil deposits. It's called "science", look into it.
originally posted by: kurthall
originally posted by: notsure1
originally posted by: kurthall
originally posted by: JAGStorm
Every winter when it is cold someone spouts off something about oh how do you like this global warming??? I think we should
have never used that term, and should have only used climate change (or something similar) from the start. Some simpletons can only understand the term global warming with extra hot in summer, not the weather instability or long term slow climate changes.
It makes me sad for humanity every time I hear it.
I remember in the early 1990's trying to explain the internet to my friends. They just couldn't understand how it works, it was like magic or something. I think many people feel that way about climate change, since they aren't experiencing it first hand (yet) they don't believe it is real. There is so so so so SO much evidence, real scientific evidence, but for some people they just want to be ignorant, what a shame for us all.
climate.nasa.gov...
www.skepticalscience.com...
Sad, Trump's ignorant tweet on climate change was ridiculous . The sad thing is his followers believe him. He tweets record cold on the East Coast and mocks climate change meanwhile we are having the hottest Winter on record in Southern California. Ignorance is Bliss with him and his followers. I now call them followers because that's what they are.
Sad thing is you dont think people had an opinion on this until Trump.
Of coarse they Had in opinion, but 90% of climatologist tell you global warming is real. Trump and his followers just go along with what they want to believe instead of scientific data. Trump exacerbates their own ignorance.
a reply to: JAGStorm
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There is a legitimate and worthy argument that is being made by scientists like myself that, while the additional CO2 is likely having a slight warming effect, the majority of the rise in temperature is due to a natural rise in temperatures since the end of the Little Ice Age. That cold period lasted for 550 years and only ended in the mid-1800’s. Bear in mind that really bad things occurred during that cooling period including famines, crop failures and death (half of the population of Iceland perished). An unbiased opinion may legitimately be that the current warming is a welcome respite from that harsh era. Prior to the current politicization of climate science, the warming periods were called "climatic optima" because humans flourished during those times.