This Suicide Machine Makes Death Peacefull And Painless

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
This device or other methods should be made available to anyone over 21 who wishes to go! The choice of life or death should be down to the individual and should be a human right! It would put an end to messy suicides, acts of violence against others and those sometimes hurt caught up in another's suicide. If you want to off yourself then that should be your human right because it is your life and it does not belong to anyone else or any government only you!!!!

Self wacking in a painless manner will become the norm in the future!

Do you work in the organ harvesting biz? I think relaxed attitudes like this would be a boon to them.

I just attended a funeral yesterday for an acquaintance who chose to take a stroll off a local cliff, leaving behind a bewildered wife and two young adult children. It has been devastating for them because "self wacking"(sic) is a selfish and extremely cruel thing to do to those left behind. The family and all his friends are only left with unanswered questions and helpless grief. Years ago I read something that said suicide doesn't end the pain, it just passes it along to your loved ones. I'm witnessing this firsthand right now.

I would double that route with first applying Anastasia to make sure there is zero suffering. Suffocating, the idea itself is scary.

a reply to: underpass61


I was very nearly a statistic a couple decades ago but what you said about passing the pain on to your loved ones is the very thought that kept me from doing it, now I am older a bit wiser and quite happy with my life.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Glad you are still with us and doing well

a reply to: andy06shake


The architects of the sixth and final great extinction?

Having nearly died twice from asphyxiation, I can say with confidence and experience that it's not a really fun way to die. The last time I knew I was less than 10 seconds from passing out, and the panic that sets in is something that I would never EVER wish on any being, human or otherwise.

Having said this, I have told my wife, if that ever happens again, and I have a gun near me, I will not let that happen again.

Terrifying is the only word that even comes close to the experience.

I hope the nitrogen helps them through that last terrifying few seconds.

Fred...

a reply to: fredrodgers1960

I was in a similar situation. People say it's a peaceful and easy way to go. CRAP ! That's just tripe regurgitated by idiot people who don't know what they are talking about. The pain i went through was horrendous. The agony in my chest and lungs was not peaceful or calming i can tell you.

What a rip off!
they are just out to get your money.
massage me I will tell you a VERY cheap way to do the Same thing.
No Gun and No mess.

Tip the Gas then uses fills a room.
THEN gets in to other rooms!!!!
so you will kill those living near you!!!

thats the reson the use this um human bottle.

Euthanasia in Victoria: how the state's assisted dying laws will work?

Who is eligible?

Voluntary assisted dying will only be available to Victorians who are over the age of 18 and are capable of making decisions.

They must be suffering from an incurable illness, which causes intolerable suffering, and be expected to live for less than six months.

Mental illness and disability alone are not grounds for access to assisted dying, but people who meet the criteria and also have a mental illness or disability will not be denied access.

Just a brief outline of how the Euthanasia laws will work, only one state in Australia has passed the bill through parliament. Patients will have to pass multiple doctor reviews, psych-counseling and be on deaths door in order to end their suffering.

It is not, oh I want to end my life here is a gas tube, go and suck on it affair.

Personally after seeing much suffering for years providing palliative care for the terminally ill elderly, some with Dementia and Alzheimer's and a multitude of other illnesses. Providing the right to die a peaceful death on your own terms, is humane and merciful. Many wish to die with dignity yet suffer excruciating torment in their final days. Only those lacking empathy and understanding could wish such a death upon a person.

originally posted by: sayzaar
Hmm ! The article states that once you have died you are then buried in the machine, it becomes your coffin. WHY ?
What would happen if you were removed from it ?
Also, if you have to be buried in the machine then i assume you have to PAY for it and they look expensive. Only those that can afford assisted suicide can do it then i guess. You can also rule it out if you want to be cremated !

He went on to say that when the person has died, which occurs swiftly, the chamber will then become the coffin of that person. The base of the chamber, on the other hand, can be reused.

The base can be reused.

Exit International gave a press release, and they said that The Sarco is designed to allow it to be 3D printed. It can then be put together in just about any location. He went on to say that the blueprints are going to be made available freely; open-source and they will be put onto the internet.

extext from the OP
Seems spendy for sure, but the above can open it up for organizations and other.

Also, seems like it would add a more sterile alternative to "death with dignity" at home or in the hospital in a bed.

originally posted by: 727Sky

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: TrueBrit

Even better, being an expensive machine, imagine the press coverage at the locations where people from all walks of life file in and line up to die.

Even worse, now that its in the public eye, watch how many people do it yourself at home with a garbage sack and nitrogen bottle.

That was one of the first things I thought of too.. why pay for the thing when a bottle of nitrogen is not all that expensive.

221L Cylinder Capacity $186.00 got to love ATS anything you want to know is in here lol

a reply to: TrueBrit

But needles hurt

a reply to: sayzaar

a reply to: fredrodgers1960

please have the decency to actually know what is being discussed before sharing your " opinion "

the type of death under discussion IS totally painless and distress free

the simple medical reason for this =

the human body has no mechanism to monitor oxygen concentrations [ either internally or externally ]

instead it relies on CO2 levels and makes `assumptions

its the rising CO2 level [ both in the breath and blood stream ] that causes distress during normal axphisiation // suffocation

inert gasses do not lead to CO2 build up - so - you simply die - unaware that anything is wrong

additionally - elevated CO2 levels - still cause respiritory distress - even if the O2 level is sufficient for life support

thats because - the body - cannot monitor oxygen levels - it monitors CO2 - and makes assumptions

your experiences were distressing for you - but they were caused by CO2 levels - not the lack of oxugen - the lack of oxygen would have killed you - had your not escaped - but the CO2 levels were what made the experience unpleasant

so - please - education on topic - BEFORE you acuse people of not knowing what they are talking about

a reply to: hutch622

Uh... no.

The US government are no where near the masters of the art. As with many things that American governments have been doing for years, their relative experience at the practice, has not improved their performance of it one iota, which adds their inability to reliably and painlessly kill a human being, to the long list of things they do all the time, which they are still bad at for some reason, a list which also includes:

Regime change
Environmental protection
Creating futureproofed energy policy
Preventing phobic mindsets amongst the population
Protecting the liberty of citizens


... to name but a few on a very long list.

What I don't understand, is that we live in a world where opiates kill by overdose all the time, which, although tragic and awful to watch externally, is only painful for the subject if someone tries to rescue them from that situation with counteractive drugs and lifesaving procedures. Why not send folk out with an armful of something that will bliss them out, rather than put them in a box and gas them to death?

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: sayzaar

a reply to: fredrodgers1960

please have the decency to actually know what is being discussed before sharing your " opinion "

the type of death under discussion IS totally painless and distress free

the simple medical reason for this =

the human body has no mechanism to monitor oxygen concentrations [ either internally or externally ]

instead it relies on CO2 levels and makes `assumptions

its the rising CO2 level [ both in the breath and blood stream ] that causes distress during normal axphisiation // suffocation

inert gasses do not lead to CO2 build up - so - you simply die - unaware that anything is wrong

additionally - elevated CO2 levels - still cause respiritory distress - even if the O2 level is sufficient for life support

thats because - the body - cannot monitor oxygen levels - it monitors CO2 - and makes assumptions

your experiences were distressing for you - but they were caused by CO2 levels - not the lack of oxugen - the lack of oxygen would have killed you - had your not escaped - but the CO2 levels were what made the experience unpleasant

so - please - education on topic - BEFORE you acuse people of not knowing what they are talking about

Please have the decency to kiss my a$$. I will say whatever I want, wherever I want, thank you very much. Try almost dying twice, it might change your perspective.

Fred.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: sayzaar

a reply to: fredrodgers1960

please have the decency to actually know what is being discussed before sharing your " opinion "

the type of death under discussion IS totally painless and distress free



your experiences were distressing for you - but they were caused by CO2 levels - not the lack of oxugen - the lack of oxygen would have killed you - had your not escaped - but the CO2 levels were what made the experience unpleasant

so - please - education on topic - BEFORE you acuse people of not knowing what they are talking about

How did YOU research it? Took this doctors word for it? I imagine a lack of O2 is pretty damned agonizing no matter how you look at it. Your bodies natural function is to breathe. Once you start getting less and less O2 with every breath, You'll know it, even if it's for a couple of seconds.

Those COUPLE of seconds can seem like an eternity. Ever been in an accident? I have... a few. Evert second that passed during the accident taking place was slower than slow. I could think full thoughts in a second.

Sure, the process may be quick to the outside looking in, but panic and fear can still be a real thing within a couple of breaths.

Loss of consciousness may be accompanied by convulsions[9] and is followed by cyanosis and cardiac arrest. About 7 minutes of oxygen deprivation causes death of the brainstem.

Source

Conclusions.... Cardiac - ask anyone who's had one "painful as hell" - arrest.... 7 minutes??? You may not be conscious or you simply may not remember it if you woke from it but going down in it... Never know unless you try.

So how about you do a little "research" yourself and let us know? I'm too chicken to try it myself. However, if you let me know it's safe after, then I'll take your word for it that YOU were lucky enough not to notice anything.

Till then, don't be an ass when people have an opposing opinion on something as serious as death, especially when they were knocking on it's door. One step closer than you had ever been, right?

originally posted by: StallionDuck
I would double that route with first applying Anastasia to make sure there is zero suffering. Suffocating, the idea itself is scary.

I don`t want Anastasia applied,I want naomi campbell or Alessandra Ambrosio or maybe Christie Brinkley!

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
This device or other methods should be made available to anyone over 21 who wishes to go! The choice of life or death should be down to the individual and should be a human right! It would put an end to messy suicides, acts of violence against others and those sometimes hurt caught up in another's suicide. If you want to off yourself then that should be your human right because it is your life and it does not belong to anyone else or any government only you!!!!

Self wacking in a painless manner will become the norm in the future!

Suicide affects everybody around you. This is the quite enormous obstacle in your path. Culture has to change, I think. But I'll allow a period of goodbyes and positive memory making might do a lot to reduce the pain placed on others. Then again, a period of goodbyes and interaction might actually cause the person to change their mind about suicide.

originally posted by: Sunwolf

originally posted by: StallionDuck
I would double that route with first applying Anastasia to make sure there is zero suffering. Suffocating, the idea itself is scary.

I don`t want Anastasia applied,I want naomi campbell or Alessandra Ambrosio or maybe Christie Brinkley!

Haha If only! Though I suspect all of those gals are aging a bit so you're telling your age now

But hey... Liz Hurley.... WOW! She aged so well!

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
This device or other methods should be made available to anyone over 21 who wishes to go! The choice of life or death should be down to the individual and should be a human right! It would put an end to messy suicides, acts of violence against others and those sometimes hurt caught up in another's suicide. If you want to off yourself then that should be your human right because it is your life and it does not belong to anyone else or any government only you!!!!

Self wacking in a painless manner will become the norm in the future!

They should let the family have a say, too. I'm sure it'd go over like a turd in a punch bowl.