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originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: angeldoll
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: angeldoll
The "bleeding from her whatever" is pretty blatant and obvious.
The "whore" comment, however, is not.
That doesn't mean Trump is a good guy. He isn't. Just that wasting time inferring the unspoken ignores the volumes of actual stuff he says/does.
Oh man, come on. He said she was willing to do anything to get that money.
Crystal clear what he meant.
No it isn't. Not unless you want to infer an unstated meaning. But that inferrence is you putting words in his mouth, not him saying it.
So...
Saying a woman was "begging" (trumps quotes)
That she "would do anything" for money.
And ending by calling her USED...in all caps?
Nothing there?
This is more a gauge of how honest you are being here rather than your opinion.
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: angeldoll
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: angeldoll
The "bleeding from her whatever" is pretty blatant and obvious.
The "whore" comment, however, is not.
That doesn't mean Trump is a good guy. He isn't. Just that wasting time inferring the unspoken ignores the volumes of actual stuff he says/does.
Oh man, come on. He said she was willing to do anything to get that money.
Crystal clear what he meant.
No it isn't. Not unless you want to infer an unstated meaning. But that inferrence is you putting words in his mouth, not him saying it.
So...
Saying a woman was "begging" (trumps quotes)
That she "would do anything" for money.
And ending by calling her USED...in all caps?
Nothing there?
This is more a gauge of how honest you are being here rather than your opinion.
originally posted by: toolgal462
So, did it bother you so much when Obama basically called Sarah Palin a "pig". You remember, don't you?
And he claimed he wasn't implying that. Yet, watch what he said and taken in context, it sure does look like he was calling her a pig.
So, where were you then?
a reply to: angeldoll
That's not change. That's just calling something the same thing something different. You know you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. You know you can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, it's still going to stink after eight years. We've had enough of the same old thing."
originally posted by: soberbacchus
Will Trump's lows ever hit rock bottom?
USA Today usually tread lightly in Politics, but apparently Trump's latest tweet encouraged them to speak up in their first editorial on Trump.
The article does a terrific job of expressing most Americans views about the President.
Excerpts:
With his latest tweet, clearly implying that a United States senator would trade sexual favors for campaign cash, President Trump has shown he is not fit for office. Rock bottom is no impediment for a president who can always find room for a new low
A president who would all but call Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand a whore is not fit to clean the toilets in the Barack Obama Presidential Library or to shine the shoes of George W. Bush.
This isn’t about the policy differences we have with all presidents or our disappointment in some of their decisions. Obama and Bush both failed in many ways. They broke promises and told untruths, but the basic decency of each man was never in doubt.
Donald Trump, the man, on the other hand, is uniquely awful. His sickening behavior is corrosive to the enterprise of a shared governance based on common values and the consent of the governed.
Trump’s utter lack of morality, ethics and simple humanity has been underscored during his 11 months in office. Let us count the ways:
•He is enthusiastically supporting Alabama's Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore, who has been accused of pursuing — and in one case molesting and in another assaulting — teenagers as young as 14 when Moore was a county prosecutor in his 30s. On Tuesday, Trump summed up his willingness to support a man accused of criminal conduct: “Roy Moore will always vote with us.”
•Trump apparently is going for some sort of record for lying while in office. As of mid-November, he had made 1,628 misleading or false statements in 298 days in office. That’s 5.5 false claims per day, according to a count kept by The Washington Post’s fact-checkers.
•Trump takes advantage of any occasion — even Monday’s failed terrorist attack in New York — to stir racial, religious or ethnic strife. Congress “must end chain migration,” he said Monday, because the terror suspect “entered our country through extended-family chain migration, which is incompatible with national security.” So because one man — 27-year-old Akayed Ullah, a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. who came from Bangladesh on a family immigrant visa in 2011 — is accused of attacking America, all immigrants brought to this country by family are suspect? Trump might have some credibility if his criticism of immigrants was solely about terrorists. It isn’t. It makes no difference to him if an immigrant is a terrorist or a federal judge. He once smeared an Indiana-born judge whose parents emigrated from Mexico. It’s all the same to this president.
•A man who clearly wants to put his stamp on the government, Trump hasn’t even done his job when it comes to filling key government positions that require Senate confirmation. As of last week, Trump had failed to nominate anyone for 60% of 1,200 key positions he can fill to keep the government running smoothly.
•Trump has shown contempt for ethical strictures that have bound every president in recent memory. He has refused to release his tax returns, with the absurd excuse that it’s because he is under audit. He has refused to put his multibillion dollar business interests in a blind trust and peddles the fiction that putting them in the hands of his sons does the same thing.
Not to mention calling white supremacists "very fine people,"
pardoning a lawless sheriff,
firing a respected FBI director,
and pushing the Justice Department to investigate his political foes.
The nation doesn’t seek nor expect perfect presidents,
and some have certainly been deeply flawed.
But a president who shows such disrespect for the truth, for ethics, for the basic duties of the job and for decency toward others fails at the very essence of what has always made America great.
Terrific summary of the Presidents core failings.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: angeldoll
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: angeldoll
The "bleeding from her whatever" is pretty blatant and obvious.
The "whore" comment, however, is not.
That doesn't mean Trump is a good guy. He isn't. Just that wasting time inferring the unspoken ignores the volumes of actual stuff he says/does.
Oh man, come on. He said she was willing to do anything to get that money.
Crystal clear what he meant.
No it isn't. Not unless you want to infer an unstated meaning. But that inferrence is you putting words in his mouth, not him saying it.
So...
Saying a woman was "begging" (trumps quotes)
That she "would do anything" for money.
And ending by calling her USED...in all caps?
Nothing there?
This is more a gauge of how honest you are being here rather than your opinion.
So....to really know what someone is saying, the only way is to "read between the lines" and then fill in the gaps with whatever my own confirmation bias wants?
Its putting words in his mouth. Plain and simple. And you have the gall to talk about honesty?
Im not saying he isn't misogynist. Im just saying that the nonsense people trot out against him time and again is so weak that it's driven me to defending a man who shouldn't be defensible.
originally posted by: underwerks
Wow. USA Today got raw on him. I believe we'll see more of this as time passes. People are waking up to how they've been used.
Better late than never I guess.