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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
...criminal record can ... prevent one from traveling to the US.
Hold up, I just reversed my stance and now support keeping it criminalized.
God knows there's enough of you Canadians coming down here and being polite on our sunny beaches while taking advantage of our private health care system.
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
It's long overdue. For most of human history marijuana was legal, and used for all manners of recreational, industrial, and medicinal purposes.
Add to that the fact that from a medical and addiction medicine perspective, it's a very safe drug compared to the vast majority of even legal drugs (especially when compared to alcohol and various prescription drugs), most of which are more lethal, more damaging over time, and more addictive.
Waiting for the uneducated to attempt to refute the latter points in 3...2...1
a reply to: underwerks
It is long overdue. I hope Canada serves as an example of how to do it right to everyone in the U.S who believes it's a bad idea to legalize cannabis.
I'm not even going to get into how stupid it is a plant has to be "legalized" in the first place.
To the people saying this changes nothing and is only the government sticking it's hands into it, you obviously have never been arrested for having a plant in your pocket. Not going to jail for personal use is what this is about, more than anything.
Right now, marijuana use criminalizes users.
I don't see that as being accurate. No prices have gone up at all. The only people who have seen prices go up are those who are used to really low quality marijuana, who at dispensary see very high grade stuff that always was around the prices they are going for. You can also buy low grade stuff for cheap at dispensaries.
originally posted by: DrumsRfun
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986
They can't even control our debt and economy?
I am sure something great will come from this. (I am rolling my eyes)
In the "stores" the prices have already been 3 times higher than what our own government said was the going rate price.
They are going to take a "perfect economical thing" that hasn't had prices go up in 30 years (unlike everything else in government control) and squander and ruin things,while making more regulations,laws and criminals out of people who don't do things by their evidently amazing way of handling an economy.
Hell no...if it is too good to be true,it probably is.
Decriminalize and THATS IT!!
originally posted by: DrumsRfun
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
Right now, marijuana use criminalizes users.
I have to disagree with you there because there is a huuuuuge gray area.
If you are an idiot,you get a possession charge and rightfully so,I know someone who had his life messed around for a little while because of a roach in the ashtray.
He was being a total dickhead.
I know waaay too many people who have been pinched with a bit of recreational pot and have never had a charge or a fine or any issues at all.
They were nice and respectful.
Gray area right there...everything is fine to me as it is because this is a good form of decriminalization.
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Right, or people in a bubble or not very informed. The more I know about marijuana's use and history and yes, relatively safe nature, the more I think that it almost is a conspiracy that it's been demonized and made illegal. Some of the older generation were totally propagandized that it was evil, as hard as other drugs like heroin or coc aine, etc. I'm sure you've heard a variety of ulterior motives for its illegal status, from the textile industry and energy interests to the hippies who assert it opens people's mind too much for the government's tastes.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Right, or people in a bubble or not very informed. The more I know about marijuana's use and history and yes, relatively safe nature, the more I think that it almost is a conspiracy that it's been demonized and made illegal. Some of the older generation were totally propagandized that it was evil, as hard as other drugs like heroin or coc aine, etc. I'm sure you've heard a variety of ulterior motives for its illegal status, from the textile industry and energy interests to the hippies who assert it opens people's mind too much for the government's tastes.
Anyone who has actually looked into the effects and uses if mj, know-it is a medicine, not only does it have medicinal properties, hemp has many practical uses from clothing all the way through to fuel.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
I know i just wanted to repeat it for the oldies, sometimes they miss the obvious stuff.