The Next Ice Age.

a reply to: BrawlPups

There have been five mass extinctions in Earth’s history. Now we’re facing a sixth.

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a reply to: MissSmartypants

in other words, the human race will be better off if we do not F#@% up in relation to how we deal with the next one.

originally posted by: Kashai
a reply to: MissSmartypants

in other words, the human race will be better off if we do not F#@% up in relation to how we deal with the next one.

The start of the next glacial period will be in about 40,000 years from now. Overall however we can expect the earth's climate to continually (albeit slowly) cool from now on as the wobble has already started on it's path away from the sun. So developing indoor farming on an industrial scale will be important.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

Nothing that is alive today north of Kentucky will be alive unless they are transplanted. Everyone living in such areas upon, a planetary scale will need to relocate.

Unless somehow we can figure things out otherwise which seems improbable today. I mean forget New York, Chicago, Kiev, London, Bejing and so on.

a reply to: Kashai


Not necessarily, We as a people can be very adaptive. If a new glacial period starts, I would imagine people at first being worried, and others seeing it an opportunity. Ever herd of the Ice Hotel? Now imagine an Ice Village, Ice City, then possibly a whole territory where people live their whole lives on sheets of ice, in homes of ice, and making a living off of tourists wanting to live the same experiences.

Will people migrate away from the ice flow areas? Of course they will, but some people will also migrate toward the ice flows too. Lets not ignore the commercial advantage of this either; Mining. Even as new glaciers form and melt, new rock faces are revealed, exposing easier access to underground resources. Seasonal glacial melt could be used to provide water to lower, more arid desserts providing new agricultural opportunities.

So looking at this ice age and the possibility of a new glacial period isn't really a bad thing, it's just a different thing.

a reply to: Guyfriday

Just as the global warming scare is dying down - the global cooling scare to starting up again.

How many tax dollars will this scare require?

originally posted by: Kashai
a reply to: MissSmartypants

Nothing that is alive today north of Kentucky will be alive unless they are transplanted. Everyone living in such areas upon, a planetary scale will need to relocate.

Unless somehow we can figure things out otherwise which seems improbable today. I mean forget New York, Chicago, Kiev, London, Bejing and so on.

Saw a movie like that once. Pretty funny

a reply to: Phage

Well in so far as the lay they are more apt to provide input if common language is used.

A point would be that the moon was much closer

Analysis of the Moodies Group [1] suggests that an Archean month – and hence the orbital period of the Moon around the Earth – was only 20 days long. Factoring in the fact that the Earth’s day would also have been much shorter (it is lengthening over time due to the effects of tidal friction, appropriately enough), you have to conclude that the Moon had a much tighter orbit.

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Just to get an idea, the nice one-degree tilt, over hundreds of thousands of years moving away from the sun, is what caused the ice age. This same one-degree tilt moving towards the sun radiated so much extra energy that it melted off the glaciers that used to cover North America and Northern Siberia 15,000 years ago.

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We could build something about a quarter to half the size of our moon using resources from our solar system. The advantage of this. is that it could be set up with propulsion, allowing us to position it at will.

a reply to: Guyfriday


My point in creating the thread is to discuss ideas concerning finding ways to deal with an Ice age.

The last Glacial Maximum (LGM) occurred around 25-16 kBP and its coldest period was at 21 kBP. A GCM simulation incorporating the changes of Earth-Sun geometry, carbon-dioxide concentrations, deep-ocean circulation, sea level and extent of the ice sheets (esp. over E. Canada and NW Europe), showed that global temperatures were on average 5.6 K colder than the mid- 20th century (1). This cooling is of the same magnitude as other estimates, mainly those from ice cores.


Tropical temperatures were only 2.2 K below current values. However, the temperature was much lower in the north Atlantic on account of a weaker and more shallow thermohaline ocean (conveyor belt) circulation there. The northern hemisphere cooled slightly more than the southern hemisphere, on account of the albedo feedback of the large continental ice sheets (1).

An international project, CLIMAP, was started in 1984 (2), to reconstruct past climates, in particular, that of the LGM. One product of this project is the mapping of sea-surface temperature, based mainly on cores drilled in the seabed (Fig 1). The pattern in Fig 1 compares well to the GCM simulation (1). The cooling (compared to now) is larger at high latitudes, but even in the tropics, the SST was 1-3 K lower than today. Therefore the area with SST>27� C was smaller, especially in the Atlantic, and therefore the threat of hurricanes was much reduced.

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Not only fewer hurricanes but due to all that ice, the water table will drop and land currently underwater will become exposed resulting in a new land that would be habitable.Temperatures north of Kentucky would consistently experience temperatures equal to that of Antartica even if we converted all that Ice into fuel (oxygen and hydrogen) that would not mean temperatures would change.

Literally taking a walk could kill a person within minutes.

a reply to: whywhynot


Donald Trump could very well be a complete asshole.

But presenting a forum that he is capable of starting a Nuclear War on his own is not only complete Bull#.

But also insight into others that do not understand why to not commit violence.

What is really funny is that in the long wrong such an effort will fall under similar auspices as Flat Earth Theory.

-Chris

a reply to: Christosterone
It's not really the topic but can you provide the source for that quote?

No? You mean he didn't say it?

a reply to: Christosterone

There is a substantive amount of new technology being developed today that could actually deal with the issue of global warming.

Case in point.

www.sciencedaily.com...=0&gsc.q=converting%20CO2%20into%20fuel&gsc.page=1

a reply to: Guyfriday


In relation to such an environment not only would the liquid oceans be saltier but in relation to submersibles, it could actually be easier to function below the water surface of our Oceans.

a reply to: Kashai


Exactly, the advantages of a new glacial period out weighs the cons. Instead of trying to find a way out of it, while not accept it and figure out the advantages of the event.

originally posted by: Kashai
a reply to: whywhynot


Donald Trump could very well be a complete asshole.

But presenting a forum that he is capable of starting a Nuclear War on his own is not only complete Bull#.

But also insight into others that do not understand why to not commit violence.

What is really funny is that in the long wrong such an effort will fall under similar auspices as Flat Earth Theory.

Think you miss replied or are drunk posting. Your reply has nothing to do with what I said.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Christosterone
It's not really the topic but can you provide the source for that quote?

No? You mean he didn't say it?

a reply to: whywhynot

Seriously, I really do not # around.

a reply to: Kashai

Would you happen to know a man whose name was John Benske?

Born in Belize, Mexico due to the fact he was a descendant of elite Germans who supported Hilter during WW!!?

And when it was clear that Adolf Hitler was dead, these families paid and perhaps with what they had stolen from the Israelis, the funds necessary to end up safe in Belize to the point they had children.

Mr. John Benske happened to be one of them.

In relation to his manner, behavior, approach, and appearance perhaps in this case related to Joseph Mengele.

Now, do you think that is funny?

a reply to: Kashai

JUST SAY NO!