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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: neutronflux
Because one nation cannot regulate any others in the practices of their citizenry and the entire world is based on supply and demand capitalism now. We can only enact change through mutual cooperation. None of that means that the planet is over populated though.
You do know that we can reasonably fit the ENTIRE population of the world in a land mass the size of Texas correct? And we wouldn't even be overcrowded. Resources would be a different issue, but we don't need modern society to survive either. On top of that mining asteroids is only a few decades away. Once we get there, resources abundance will jump through the roof (provided it isn't artificially bottlenecked).
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: neutronflux
Wait, what? Are you trying to imply that Hitler was an atheist? As far as I was aware he was convinced that there was a god.
originally posted by: neutronflux
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: neutronflux
Because one nation cannot regulate any others in the practices of their citizenry and the entire world is based on supply and demand capitalism now. We can only enact change through mutual cooperation. None of that means that the planet is over populated though.
You do know that we can reasonably fit the ENTIRE population of the world in a land mass the size of Texas correct? And we wouldn't even be overcrowded. Resources would be a different issue, but we don't need modern society to survive either. On top of that mining asteroids is only a few decades away. Once we get there, resources abundance will jump through the roof (provided it isn't artificially bottlenecked).
What does fitting people in one state have to do with enough farm land and resources to feed a growing population of billions? In addition to depleting resources. One bad solar storm or EMP attack would destroy the house of cards that is our modern infrastructure, leading to millions to starve.
you say religion offers concrete answers to questions? What are those answers? Because, as far as i can tell, religion offers nonsensical babble from ancient minds. Feel free to pick any religion you like, and tell me the answers it provides to any of those questions.
originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Woodcarver
I'm glad someone actual read and thought about my post!
I'm not promoting a particular dogma. The one you have is just fine.
The purpose of religion is to provide a map on how to live one's life. And to provide answers to the four great existential unanswerable questions:
1. Who am I?
2. Why am I here?
3. What does it all mean?
4. What is going to happen to me when I die?
As I was saying I was not trying to promote a particular dogma. But religion provides axioms, or concrete answers, to the four great unanswerable existential questions. People are uncomfortable with uncertainty. People want certainty. That is why people create dogma.
Perhaps evolution just passed you by?
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: Woodcarver
Well I certainly don't know that. And I am a man, so your proposition is patently false.
originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: BStoltman
"Nature herself has imprinted on the minds of all the idea of God."
Cicero
I think God is a universal concept that all men 'know', however, the form and influence that God has are up to the individual seeker and no one should tell another how and what to believe.
Nature must have skipped you.
I’m sorry.
I'll take it one further and say that, it's not that atheists don't believe in gods, it's more like we don't believe in religious people's Claims that gods exiss.
originally posted by: BlackProject
a reply to: BStoltman
Just want to add because it often bothers me. Atheists is a term religious folk like to use for non-believers. Making out that non-believers is also a religious stance. Its not, Atheism is nothing more then, "I do not think a God exists" end of sentence.
I wish people would point this out more, as the more people use Atheism as a term for not believing in God, the worse the term is used.
originally posted by: BStoltman
I began my personal journey in this life, believing in the "God" of the Bible. I read every word of the Bible, and took it so seriously that I even attained a mediocre ability to read the text in its original Hebrew & Greek Language. My journey into this turned me into an Atheist. Let me make this clear, The reading of the Bible literally turned me Atheist.
I have always wondered, if people who claim to be of a professed religious ideal actually read their own text. What makes you believe in a God if you do? I am honestly curious about it. An interesting video I saw that made me ponder this question again now was:
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: BStoltman
Super duper agnostic here:
It takes faith to insist that gods / a god exist.
Just like it does to insist that such noun(s) dont exist.
originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: wmd_2008
Maybe you don't understand that I'm a Christian believer, or in other words, that we have a model of authentic leadership where the love and will of God was rendered transparent.
It has nothing to do with the practices and beliefs of primitive man.
Please don't ASSUME. Thank you.
originally posted by: wmd_2008
originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: wmd_2008
Maybe you don't understand that I'm a Christian believer, or in other words, that we have a model of authentic leadership where the love and will of God was rendered transparent.
It has nothing to do with the practices and beliefs of primitive man.
Please don't ASSUME. Thank you.
WHAT want to explain that authentic leadership, your belief system IS based on primitive man wether you like it or not. Want to explain how this so called almighty god the creator of everything according to some could NOT get his message across to all parts of the world at the same time your god is like all the others a creation of MAN.
"There is a principal which serves as a bar against all information and proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principal is called - contempt, prior to investigation."
~ Herbert Spencer, Scientist