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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Justso
A) It hasn’t been 200 years..
B) that is less than 2 life times ago..
We are not talking Ancient Greece or Rome..
We are taking about great, great grand parents..
Still operating Businesses are older than that..
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Justso
Yea, hate for people to point out the atrocities you still benefit from.. right??? right???
Lol.. just lol..
Also I bet you say removing he confederate monuments is “erasing history.”
As you just specificlly asked to erase history.. lol
I posted the same thing about anold cobfederate General... I bet you stared and flagged it....
I’m gonna check..
Black slaves were more expensive than Irish slaves and were hence looked after in the same way you'd look after anything that cost you money.
The intent of the article is thus patently clear; to insidiously equate indentured servitude or penal servitude with racialised perpetual hereditary chattel slavery. This is an obscene rhetorical move which decontextualises and dehistoricises the exploitation of both groups. There have been many different forms of slavery, across space and time. That is not the issue here. We are addressing the mainstream endorsement of a growing white nationalist campaign built on the reductionist fallacy of “slavery is slavery” which is inevitably used to justify racism in the present. For example, the spurious “we went through the same thing, but we don’t complain” sentiment which is now frequently deployed to silence debate and to mock demands for justice and truth-telling.
originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
Are you still living in a 200 year ripple effect? That's real sad. 200 years later. Real sad. Try to catch up.
Actually, you might want to catch up on the notion of economics and the creation of wealth.
My grandfather farmed 1,000 acres of soybeans his whole life and got a brand new truck every year.. (maybe it was 100 acres?? Can’t believe I don’t remember that... I’ve said it a gajillion Times, but he died when I was 12 and I haven’t referenced it in a decade ... It was about a mile square in central LA .. maybe 3/4 by 3/4 of a mile.. not sure if that’s 100 or 1000.. don’t do much acre math lately lol.. )
blacks tend to group a little better than whites do
originally posted by: Hecate666
www.antislavery.org...
I personally feel for these guys [above] quite a bit more. They are not past their misery, they are still, right now being slaves, yet the oldtimers are highlighted.
Yes, it is interesting to hear historical accounts but I feel sick for a variety of reasons.
First of all, the old guys are not slaves any longer.
All black people who live in modern, civilised countries have made a whole business [getting money, special status etc] out of something that most of their families weren't even part of. Just because you are black doesn't mean your ancestors were actual slaves.
Black slaves were more expensive than Irish slaves and were hence looked after in the same way you'd look after anything that cost you money.
Not all slaves were mistreated. Most humans are actually empathic enough not to mistreat a fellow human, those that do are basically bastards. They probably mistreated their wives and kids and white maids just the same.
Slaves were rounded up by their own people who didn't give a toss. Anyone want to have a 'go' at them?
The biggest slave owners then and now are not white people but arabs.
White people fought against slavery until it was made illegal. Anyone want to thank them? No?
I really care about modern day slaves. Why are black people not on the forefront against these practices [considering their ever present experience] or does it only count when it is black people and everyone else can go and make love to themselves?
I care that slavery happened in unenlightened times but it isn't keeping me awake, considering it has been made illegal and is not done by whitey any longer. However modern day slavery does keep me awake. Those poor souls that are right at this moment, beaten, burned, raped and who would love to pick cotton instead; deserve our [and especially black people's] attention and actions.
I can't stand victim mentality for gain. Stop moaning and help others now.
originally posted by: timequake
Actually, you might want to catch up on the notion of economics and the creation of wealth.
If you could, please elaborate on the specifics of that concept as it directly relates to the topic of slavery; of how an institution--the infrastructure of which largely being obliterated during the post-civil war reconstruction era--made us beneficiaries of slavery .