Charles Manson - morally/ethically wrong?

his brain should be dissected

a reply to: wheresthebody

Ha! That's the first thing my wife said when I told her about his death.

a reply to: snowspirit

the same way hitler could be tried for crimes against humanity for ordering the deaths of people etc

a reply to: sapien82

Germany decided recently that Hitlers Mein Kampf could be sold again as a transparent academic version.

www.bbc.com...

January third was the reported death of Alois Shicklgruber (Hitlers father) and the date (1889) Nietzsche was declared insane.

I think people are forgetting that not only was he convicted for conspiracy to murder he also actually killed people himself for which he was found guilty of at least 2 (I think) first degree murders that he did himself.

He was clearly insane and a danger to others.

A psycho murderer, completely insane, and directly/indirectly responsible for death and suffering of others. That's not being judgmental, it's just fact.

Why the debate?

a reply to: oldcarpy

It's akin to saying that Pablo escobar was a nice person because he built a housing estate for the poor of medellin
but still killed hundreds of people by proxy

a reply to: sapien82

True. It's just bleedin' obvious to anyone with half a brain that CM thoroughly deserved being locked up forever.

What next - Ted Bundy was really a nice chap, just a bit misunderstood?

he was culpable in the murders its the same as hiring a hitman to kill someone! i believe it involves "intent" like if you are the driver in a bank robbery and one of the robbers kills a bank teller the whole gang faces the same penalty! he was the mastermind of the murders! and his "family" always seemed to me like they were possesed or drugged out of it somehow
anyway he seemed to have some kind of hold on them from news reports about them at the time! he was an odd fish and seemed sort of scary to me! best he's gone

I think this is an interesting thread, in that everyone is debating the idea of finding some compassion for Charles Manson, but nobody has proposed even a wisp of a reason why he might be considered at all mistreated or misunderstood.

If there's any form of evidence that he was at all 'scapegoated' for something he didn't do, let's be seeing it.

Because I think that most people would probably agree, if push came to shove, that Manson was a rabid and committed evildoer and that life imprisonment was the kindest thing anyone could or should have done for him. People like Manson test my opposition to the death penalty.

a reply to: Ghostsinthefog

How many people did Hitler Kill? Or Stalin?

The intent is where the guilt lies, not the actual act.