Eight women say Charlie Rose sexually harassed them — with nudity, groping and lewd calls

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: xuenchen

No not Charlie too!

I would almost fear the deviancy of someone like Charlie Rose over that of a hardened criminal.

Its like Mr Rogers or Bert on Sesame Street being molestors.

Is Rose the host of a children's program?
Or are you implying accusations of pedophilia?

Same level of disappointment.

Ahh, the "Failing New York Times", as Trump likes to call them, has just lost their star White House reporter who was worshipped on Saturday Night Live skits, to sexual allegations.

Another one bites the dust. Trump is looking like a prophet, so much winning.

New York Times star reporter suspended after sex harassment claim

The New York Times has suspended star White House correspondent Glenn Thrush amid allegations he sexually harassed co-workers, and the journalist is blaming his bad behavior on the bottle.

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Good God is right; the question is whose next. I think it’s the James Bond syndrome.

Men just have to realize James Bond is a movie, a myth.

You can’t smile and wink at a modern woman and then do what you like and she goes home with you like happens in the movies with Sean Connery.

This guy had a show on PBS and CBS and now they've both fired the guy

There's more going on here than meets the eye. This could all just be part of a grand conspiracy. What if this is all just to set the stage for when the left comes after Trump? They're throwing sacrificial lambs under the bus for the purpose of setting paradigm in peoples minds. Once they've put away enough of their own as examples, they'll haul out the Trump accusers and public opinion will do the rest.

originally posted by: Willtell
You can’t smile and wink at a modern woman and then do what you like and she goes home with you like happens in the movies with Sean Connery.

I disagree. You can try to do that and it shouldn't be a problem unless and until the woman says "no." That's something missing from a number of these allegations against many men... if a dude makes a pass at a woman, that shouldn't be reason for a major news event. If the target of the pass says "no" and the pass continues, then it needs to become a serious issue.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Implied consent?
That's all that's required to remove it from harassment or abuse?

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti
There's more going on here than meets the eye. This could all just be part of a grand conspiracy. What if this is all just to set the stage for when the left comes after Trump? They're throwing sacrificial lambs under the bus for the purpose of setting paradigm in peoples minds. Once they've put away enough of their own as examples, they'll haul out the Trump accusers and public opinion will do the rest.

If so, then major fail. All that's happening here is a general desensitization. I think it is more likely hypocrites being called out on their horsecrap.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I completely agree with you, and would even go so far as to point the finger at modern Neo-Feminism directly when taking into consideration the concerted efforts to marginalize men while claiming to "help" or "free" us "oppressed" women. I do not believe NF and this wave of accusations are not linked in the shadows somewhere. The coincidence is just too rank to ignore.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Implied consent?
That's all that's required to remove it from harassment or abuse?

Well, look at Moore. I'm not talking groping or forcing a kiss here, I'm talking we have women accusing "he asked me to have sex!!!" Except for one, the accusers so far have all been 16 or older. 16 is age of consent in Alabama. No crimes is committed walking up to a woman and saying "Heya, looking fine today. What say we slip off someone and get to know each other a bit better?" Even in the world of business, this constitutes a potential civil liability, but laws aren't being broken.

Walking out of your own shower naked... is that harassment? It certainly *could* be seen as such depending on the circumstances. Abuse? Not hardly. But again, one is a civil issue, the other is a criminal issue. I can file a civil suit against you for quoting me on ATS. Doesn't mean I'd win the case, but if I did it certainly doesn't mean I have grounds to demand criminal charges be filed.

a reply to: burdman30ott6
It has to be a criminal act to be grossly inappropriate?

Who, btw, has demanded criminal charges? Any of the accusers? Any at all?

a reply to: Nyiah

It works against both, Nyiah. It isn't just Neo-feminists/militant feminists to blame. I recall guys in college who struggled with talking to females being among the ones most vocal against any male with dating confidence. Women are attracted to confidence and, let's be honest, swagger so long as it doesn't become abrasive arrogance. I think there are plenty of shy guys out there who believe their action will increase greatly if the playing field is "leveled" through making swagger and confidence a thing of the past across the board.

This will be a bit controversial. But the issue is in peoples minds

One thing people are afraid to talk about is the way some woman dress. Some would say it’s not conservative enough.

I know people say, “There you go blaming the victim.”

That's not my intent here--just trying to deal with the issues.


Them maybe woman who do walk around very sensuous looking should put a sign on

Look but don’t touch

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I think there are plenty of shy guys out there who believe their action will increase greatly if the playing field is "leveled" through making swagger and confidence a thing of the past across the board.

I think there are plenty of guys who think that women "just let you do it, you can do anything."

Speaking as one who is well past the "playing field", your statement is crap.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burdman30ott6
It has to be a criminal act to be grossly inappropriate?

Who, btw, has demanded criminal charges? Any of the accusers? Any at all?

Inappropriate is firstly a matter of personal subjecture. Secondly, when it is used to terminate employment, it needs to be quantifiable or the employer opens themself up to a lawsuit for wrongful termination. "Inappropriate" is a crappy measuring staff. I can easily find you 100 people who believe that homosexuals are "inappropriate." Depending on whether you believe polls or not, I can find a majority of people who would say kneeling during the national anthem is "inappropriate." Hell, in some circles, women leaving their home without their head covered is "inappropriate." This is why we are a nation of laws. If a law wasn't broken, then it's a non issue beyond the understanding of a variety of differing opinions from any variety of different people.

originally posted by: Phage
Speaking as one who is well past the "playing field", your statement is crap.

I'm happily married for the past 15 years. My statement is based on what I observed before I married. I'm not at all surprised by your position on the statement, however. Those who perpetuated the "here I sit watching the bar empty, guess I'll turn out the light" stereotype generally ridicule it.

a reply to: xuenchen

Charlie Rose, the old dude on PBS? Strange times we live in..

originally posted by: xuenchen
Popular and famous media personality Charlie Rose is the latest (as of this hour) celebrity to be accused of sexual harassment.

Ii'ts all biblical. The "stars" are falling.

And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:...etc.. -- KJV, Revelation 12:1...

That was September 23rd, 2017, remember, the date that prophesy says things begin to happen at "rapid pace".

And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon...And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth:... KJV, Revelation|12:3-.

Now we see the meaning of the "metaphor" used in the cryptic language of the book of Revelation.

All these "stars" are "people" we are accustomed to "looking up to", for decades we thought only the best of them.

But since September 23rd, they have begun to "fall" from the "heaven" they have enjoyed all these years, our "admiration" has turned to "scorn". They have come down to earth.

So, if we read the scriptures right, "one-third" of all these stars are destined to fall the same way.

The "red dragon" of course, is "anger" and "pride". Which is the cause of the fall. The proud and angry women are coming forward to pull these stars down.

It's all a wonderful sight. A testimony to the truth of the scriptures.

Next to follow, of course, is a war. Because you can't pull so many men down from their pedestals, without causing a reaction among the remaining "stars", who then turn to the usual major "distraction" to end the hemorrhaging of their status and power, by engineering a war that makes everybody turn their attention away.

The war starts in 1260 days from the sign. That's 3 1/2 years from now, just as Donald Trump enters his 2nd term.

Note that 3 1/2 years from Sep-2017 is Mar-2021 that's just a couple months into Trump's 2nd term starting JAN-2021.

And MARCH is the month that nations like to go to war, because it's "cool" and soldiers can handle the climate better. Not too hot like summer, not too cold like winter. The Romans celebrated this with festivals to MARS the god of WAR.

So, the timing is exact, and things are matching up well, with the dates of scriptures.

a reply to: AMPTAH

sounds like a plan the Bilderbergs might come up with...

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Phage
Speaking as one who is well past the "playing field", your statement is crap.

I'm happily married for the past 15 years. My statement is based on what I observed before I married. I'm not at all surprised by your position on the statement, however. Those who perpetuated the "here I sit watching the bar empty, guess I'll turn out the light" stereotype generally ridicule it.

Did you just ridicule Phage because you believe he had little-to-no confidence regarding his prowess in ‘bagging’ women from the bar? Just want to clear that up?

a reply to: Phage

What exactly is your position, Phage? I’m confused by the exchange...and hopefully, we all make it to the age where we are beyond “playing the field”.

When are the executives that ignored the complaints gonna get fired?