An Open Letter to President Donald Trump

a reply to: DBCowboy

Maybe we can start with churches. And maybe organizations like the Red Cross. Or we can start one. I am sure many will be willing to donate like they donate to those organizations.

originally posted by: EA006
a reply to: DBCowboy

Sadly it's obvious they don't care.

The corporation has no need for negative revenue commodities.

Look around for other assets being treated a similar way.

Exactly. Mental health is a negative revenue commodity. It's a loss from the get-go, in terms of finances.

That's why I think our tax dollars should go into it instead of forcing it into a corporate model.

a reply to: DBCowboy

If you want better mental health in this country do something about wealth inequality in this country. Money talks. Everything else is BS.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: DBCowboy

Maybe we can start with churches. And maybe organizations like the Red Cross. Or we can start one. I am sure many will be willing to donate like they donate to those organizations.

We do that now.

And it's not working.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: DBCowboy

If you want better mental health in this country do something about wealth inequality in this country. Money talks. Everything else is BS.

Yeah, ok, rich people suck.


Going to talk about mental health solutions now.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Exactly. Mental health is a negative revenue commodity. It's a loss from the get-go, in terms of finances.

So is military spending. If we want to address the social problems in this country we will have to cut military spending. Guns or butter, choose, you can't have both.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: DBCowboy

Maybe we can start with churches. And maybe organizations like the Red Cross. Or we can start one. I am sure many will be willing to donate like they donate to those organizations.

We do that now.

And it's not working.

The organizations for mentally ill people? I don't see much of that. So of course it isn't working.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: DBCowboy

If you want better mental health in this country do something about wealth inequality in this country. Money talks. Everything else is BS.

Yeah, ok, rich people suck.


Going to talk about mental health solutions now.

If people were not living under poverty wages they would have more resources to help family members with mental health issues. Most marriages fail because of money related issues. We need to reduce the stresses caused by obscene levels of wealth inequality in this country. Poverty kills more people than any other cause.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Grambler

How many are armed?

In my company none.

Unless they have a criminal history or medical recommendation though, they are allowed to own firearms, but my company does not allow them in the houses that are rented for them.

So they can keep them at relatives or storage places.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: DBCowboy

Maybe we can start with churches. And maybe organizations like the Red Cross. Or we can start one. I am sure many will be willing to donate like they donate to those organizations.

We do that now.

And it's not working.

The organizations for mentally ill people? I don't see much of that. So of course it isn't working.

We can't force people to be charitable.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Why can't we focus on getting people well?

Why is that such an issue here?

That isn't the issue. The issue is the government involvement. And we've all seen how the government involvement in the mental health facilities. Heck we see that a lot with the VA hospitals.

I know.

That's made it difficult for me to even formulate this type of compromise.

It goes beyond the shooter and guns though. It is a wide-spread problem that is only getting worse and is being poorly addressed.

I don't like it.

But maybe it is the only viable solution.

Unless you or someone else can come up with something better?

I'd entertain anything to treat the myriad of mental health issues that plague our nation.

It's a difficult one.

Billions would be needed to build the infrastructure needed to house the people if it was assisted living.
Same to build the institutions.

Even if it was a case of converting older buildings the cost would still be hundreds of millions.

Then you'd have the cost of the medication, staff, provisions....

The will just isn't there to spend those dollars.

originally posted by: EA006



The will just isn't there to spend those dollars.

Yeah.

I'm probably just pissing in the wind with this.

*shrugs*

Everyone needs a windmill to tilt at.

a reply to: DBCowboy

President Trump is a busy man, so perhaps a Cliff's Notes version of this would be beneficial.

Dear President Trump,
Perhaps it is time to reopen the lunatic asylums this country used to operate. If one's shell is cracked enough that possession of a firearm would pose a danger to others, why are they even allowed on the street, let alone allowed to have driver's licenses, own knives, or interact with normal, healthy Americans outside of a controlled environment? Reopen the asylums and right this wrong.
Sincerely,
America

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: DBCowboy

President Trump is a busy man, so perhaps a Cliff's Notes version of this would be beneficial.

Dear President Trump,
Perhaps it is time to reopen the lunatic asylums this country used to operate. If one's shell is cracked enough that possession of a firearm would pose a danger to others, why are they even allowed on the street, let alone allowed to have driver's licenses, own knives, or interact with normal, healthy Americans outside of a controlled environment? Reopen the asylums and right this wrong.
Sincerely,
America

Always straight to the point.

a reply to: EA006

Yeah that's the problem with my line of work.

Long story short, it's expensive, and us lowly employees get paid very little.

I think there are ways to continue with effective services while lowering costs, but I could post all day on that.

Two problems I can quickly mention that aren't about money are helping end the stigma and getting outreach to people that may need help like this.

And looking in to the never ending pill pushing and effects of some of these drugs.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: EA006
a reply to: DBCowboy

Sadly it's obvious they don't care.

The corporation has no need for negative revenue commodities.

Look around for other assets being treated a similar way.

Exactly. Mental health is a negative revenue commodity. It's a loss from the get-go, in terms of finances.

That's why I think our tax dollars should go into it instead of forcing it into a corporate model.

It's tragic, 0.25% GDP ring fenced for mental health and associated disorders would be a start.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

You may end in there, just because you dint fit a model

Lithium fir everyone 2020 yay!!!

a reply to: DBCowboy

I see no need to pussy foot around this issue. Yeah, I get it, some will be revulsed by candor and bluntness... oh well, such is life. America needs to start playing to the highest common denominator again. Policy should always directly benefit the majority, not kick the majority in the head while scrambling to coddle a minority of citizens (or in many cases, non-citizens).

a reply to: DBCowboy

It's people like you speaking up that keeps this issue current.

Keep truckin'

originally posted by: Indigent
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You may end in there, just because you dint fit a model

Lithium fir everyone 2020 yay!!!

Doubtful.