Great Pyramid 'Void' - What do the Ancient Texts Tell Us?

It sure is interesting, but isn't this an older discovery?
A second entrance was believed to be discovered behind the kings tomb.


check the stones...

So let’s look at the north wall, following Jean-Pierre Houdin’s instructions:

What do we see on the wall? On the right (east side, low down, in orange), the entrance through which we currently enter this room. On the left, the layout of granite blocks forms a doorway (in pink) that takes the entire weight of the (dark) granite ceiling beams. The (yellow) blocks filling the doorway do not bear on the central block at the bottom (blue). This seals the second entrance. It is free, exactly like the block that once sealed the first entrance. Free: in other words, it could be moved… for example, at the end of the king’s funeral ceremony, when the pyramid had to be sealed.

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Here is a video explaining it


(jump to 19:00 )

How the mechanism supposedly worked:

the newly discovered void appears to be roughly the same shape as the State of Tennessee , so I'm assuming it's a giant fishing hole, but I'm not an Egyptologist.

Here is Herodot, who lived from abouit 484 to around 424 BC, and visited Egypt.

Herodot about the pyramids

Now, Herodot was a greek, and at this time the upper echelons of Egyptian society was descendant from greeks that now ruled Egypt afte the conquest of Alexander. This is a report, obviously, of the pyramids over a thousand years after their construction, but still it is more contemporary than many other texts.

What is both great, and bad, about Herodot is that he reported everything he was told. No matter how stupid he thought it sounded, so he has no "filter" at all. If he is told something, he tries to report on it, and only occasionally will he comment that he finds that this sounds unlikely.

Anyway, what is interesting is that he speaks quite clearly about the excavations below the Great Pyramid, and also about the fact that a portion of the Nile was diverted "into it". In contrast to the second largest pyrmaid, that of Khefren.

Have they ever discovered any large scale excavations beneath the pyramid?

Cheers,

BT

originally posted by: beetee
Here is Herodot, who lived from abouit 484 to around 424 BC, and visited Egypt.

Herodot about the pyramids

Now, Herodot was a greek, and at this time the upper echelons of Egyptian society was descendant from greeks that now ruled Egypt afte the conquest of Alexander. This is a report, obviously, of the pyramids over a thousand years after their construction, but still it is more contemporary than many other texts.

What is both great, and bad, about Herodot is that he reported everything he was told. No matter how stupid he thought it sounded, so he has no "filter" at all. If he is told something, he tries to report on it, and only occasionally will he comment that he finds that this sounds unlikely.

Anyway, what is interesting is that he speaks quite clearly about the excavations below the Great Pyramid, and also about the fact that a portion of the Nile was diverted "into it". In contrast to the second largest pyrmaid, that of Khefren.

Have they ever discovered any large scale excavations beneath the pyramid?

Cheers,

BT

There was a recent announcement that they had discovered a papyrus paper describing how the Egyptians constructed a canal under the pyramid so that blocks could be unloaded by boat.

originally posted by: blackadder01
a reply to: Scott Creighton

I've always imagined some sort of portal in there, the world is a lot older than us weak human beings would like to think. I can't tell you what's there but if it's something really significant we will never hear about it.

Anything is possible man. Undoubtedly some strange stuff was going on in those pyramids...

a reply to: Scott Creighton

Seems like some kinda pressure chamber to me or a containment zone before venting gas/steam/by-products...
I don't buy the "it's a tomb" nonsense.

I wonder how many other shafts have yet to be discovered, doesn't look like the detectors were terribly accurate?

a reply to: georgelee

They had to use the power they had for something right? Lol

a reply to: EA006

Absolutely. I don't buy into the theory of the pyramids being burial grounds. Something fishy was going on in there, more than just ritualistic. I don't pretend to know what they were doing in/with the pyramids because I don't know, but it was a lot more than just burying someone in there...

a reply to: beetee

Did he see the excavations or was he told about them?

How far did they divert the nile?

Difficult to say geologically how far the Nile has moved from the time the pyramids were built.
I read somewhere there was water damage on the sphinx that was several thousand years old... not one thousand

I know you're going by the info you have lol
You might not be able to answer.

a reply to: georgelee

Search "nuclear pyramid"



It's a theory. Beats the tomb nonsense.

a reply to: Scott Creighton

Both voids are probably leftovers from the hiding of the true internals of the pyramid.

They had alternate paths to alternate chambers which are now hidden by dropping large stone blocks down into place.

My guess is also that the 'real' chambers were filled with sand and an attempt to breach them will spill the sand out and cause a further reconfiguration of the pyramid internals and will also trap those who would try and steal from the pyramid.

a reply to: Scott Creighton
That's an interesting theory and coincides with Plato's idea that the pyramids were made to warn people of the recurring deluge.

I think if anything the local authorities lack political will to drill because they know mystery sells! Millions of New Age cultists travel there every year to do weird things inside. That's countin money!

a reply to: chr0naut

And then the mummy makes an appearance killing those who dare disturb the dead?

a reply to: stormcell

That's interesting.

The problem with Herodot, or Herodotus, is that he is simply reporting things that he was being told by his "guides" that were probably egyptian priests. This was, as you know, long after the actual fact, so the information is skewed by a thousand years or so of mythmaking and storytelling.

What makes it interesting, to me at least, is that the egyptians themeselves seemed to emphasize what was under the pyramid as most important, and not the pyramid themselves.

Now, this could of course be an attempt to deflect or misguide, but as the tombs themselves were probably all robbed long ago when Herodot visited, it is somewhat hard to see the point.

When reading Herodots account it almost seems like most of the pyramids "secrets", whatever they might be, were placed not into the pyramid but under it, and then the Nile diverted to "protect" them.

There has been all sorts of reports about what is under there, by Von Däniken and others, so it is difficult to know what is legitimate and what is not.

a reply to: EA006

You should have a look at Herodots Histories yourself. It is quite an entertaining read, and if not a primary source, then at least a more contemporary source than many others.

You have to read what he is relating in the context of who is (probably) doing the telling, and what he might or might not have been getting wrong, but the fact remains that he was there at a point in time where the pyramid itsef was much different than it is today.

Here is a link to a collection of some historical sources for the Pyramids:

Link

I have not vetted them, so some due dilligence is appropriate if anyone wants to delve deeper into this.

Cheers,

BT

a reply to: beetee

Thanks I'll have a look.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Scott Creighton

Both voids are probably leftovers from the hiding of the true internals of the pyramid.

They had alternate paths to alternate chambers which are now hidden by dropping large stone blocks down into place.

My guess is also that the 'real' chambers were filled with sand and an attempt to breach them will spill the sand out and cause a further reconfiguration of the pyramid internals and will also trap those who would try and steal from the pyramid.

This sounds pretty sensical/likely. Also potentially may be an architectural feature to save weight.

I don't think we even need to get into wild theories about the Pyramids. The void can be explained using the official narrative.

It could contain the mummy we never found in the Kings Chamber, plus all the objects and "loot" that would have been stashed in there with him. Seal it off, with no way back in or to even know there is a room there, then divert everyone's attention to the Grand Gallery and Kings Chamber.

Until the advent of modern Muon scanning technology, the plan was foolproof!

(Before I get jumped on, it's just a theory )

a reply to: beetee

Very interesting read.

Seems Herodotus didn't venture inside the pyramids himself and the other accounts are very vague about what was where.

Even the accounts of the water channel cut to transport building material are inaccurate which leads me to suspect it didn't happen.

Also the sphinx's disappearance and reappearance multiple times through burial makes me think the original water damage is a lot older than the accounts lead you to believe.

a reply to: Kryties

It would be awesome if they found treasure, but I reckon it's empty.