Star Trek is dead, fire at will!

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

It could be.

Also there was a double episode of TNG where it turned out that all the races of the alpha/beta quadrant were seeded by a long dead civilisation so maybe it was something genetic caused by a form of canabilism that caused them to stop or maybe altered them into the later style of klingons we know?

a reply to: tadaman

When Star Trek Discovery shoved the transgender argument by having the female character called Michael, I knew it was over. The original Star Trek had hidden lessons but didn't get that screwed up.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

I have to ask, why is that really a big deal?

Also the main character isn't trans-gendered anyway.

Maybe the hidden lesson here is to not put so much stock in names.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: tadaman

When Star Trek Discovery shoved the transgender argument by having the female character called Michael, I knew it was over. The original Star Trek had hidden lessons but didn't get that screwed up.

Did you get that from the name?

I just assumed that the name or names had evolved past male/female in some instances.

Transgender never crossed my mind.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: tadaman

When Star Trek Discovery shoved the transgender argument by having the female character called Michael, I knew it was over. The original Star Trek had hidden lessons but didn't get that screwed up.

I wouldn't say that. For its time this:



...was WAY out there.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: tadaman

When Star Trek Discovery shoved the transgender argument by having the female character called Michael, I knew it was over. The original Star Trek had hidden lessons but didn't get that screwed up.

I wouldn't say that. For its time this:

...was WAY out there.

I find the thought of watching Shatner kissing worse than the thought of an inter racial or homosexual kiss.

a reply to: nonspecific

Pretty slow on the uptake then. plenty have been debating this.

'Star Trek: Discovery' lead gets surprising character name

a reply to: intrepid

God she was so hot. The desert fan dance was creepy but awesome on principle alone. Finally.

mmmmm uhurah

She was still great at her part all these years later. Her performance in "Of Gods and men" was good IMO.

I love that woman.

a reply to: nonspecific

Then you are sexist and racist against older white men. See how that works?

a reply to: thepixelpusher

What people are debating is irrelevant, to me at least.

I care more about liking or disliking the character.

And while I do feel her name has some 'agenda' behind it, I don't feel anything is being shoved down my throat, let alone identity politics.

ETA:
Are you suggesting trans etc. + whatever, have no place in Star Trek?

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: nonspecific

Pretty slow on the uptake then. plenty have been debating this.

'Star Trek: Discovery' lead gets surprising character name

I watch it because it is entertaining but do not bother to read up or speculate much outside of ATS.

I did not even know it was due for release until a week before the first episode when it came up on my netflix.

Might they have chosen the name simply to create speculation and generate interest?

I really enjoy Star Trek, I watch the Original Series, Next Generation, Deep Space 9, Voyager, and more on Netflix! There is tons of content!

As for the new Star Trek, I won't be watching it. In order to see it, one has to subscribe to CBS All Access - I'm not going to start subscribing to a bunch of streaming services just to see one show. I mean, if I wanted to watch Game of Thrones and Star Trek: Discovery, I would have to shell out money for two additional subscriptions on top of my Hulu, Netflix, and CrunchyRoll.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Not at all. I have transgender friends. I just thought Trek was pushing it just to be politically correct without the background of what nattered.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: thepixelpusher

What people are debating is irrelevant, to me at least.

I care more about liking or disliking the character.

And while I do feel her name has some 'agenda' behind it, I don't feel anything is being shoved down my throat, let alone identity politics.

ETA:
Are you suggesting trans etc. + whatever, have no place in Star Trek?

Have you seen the Orville? apprantly a lot of trekkies are liking it a lot more and the first officer although from an asexual race is clearly in a sterotypical gay relationship, it really is quite refreshing.

a reply to: darkbake

There are alternative methods of acquiring media.

a reply to: darkbake

Unfortunately, streaming services is where everything is going, even new release movies. The market for entertainment is becoming so fractured that it will take a combined service like Apple streaming to bring the entertainment industry out of it's downturn. Netflix is currently taking a hit over the Spacey revelations, but may survive to be the leader too.

a reply to: nonspecific

Orville, is fine and seems to be getting it's sea legs. I have kept it on my watch list.

a reply to: nonspecific

No I have not. I have this unjustified dislike of Seth MacFarlane.

Though I have considered giving it a shot. I saw that Patrick Stewart was on there once, and that Jonathan Frakes directed an episode (iirc). So might be that I can find something to appreciate there.

It's funny how people seem to complain about things in one context, but love them in other contexts. Thinking about the stereotypical gay relationship you refer too. I bet plenty are fine with it on that show, but would be (or are) up in arms about it in STD (the doc and the engineer).

a reply to: thepixelpusher

I'm hoping my subscriptions to both Netflix and Hulu cover most of the shows I want to see... I subscribe to Crunchy Roll to watch anime. I like the way I can watch entire seasons of a show when I want... but if the industry does indeed become more fractured to the point where I am going to have to subscribe to a different service for every show I want to watch, I'll pass.