Removing Trump by Force?

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Today I had a haircut therefore Trump causes death and mayhem.

Seriously bro - you're too emotionally invested, now you're thinking about him when you could be having beers or shagging.

a reply to: ketsuko

You're speaking hypothetically.

As I said, I've never heard of German Fascists demanding nations they occupied to change their national language.

I said nothing about "undesirables", I know the Nazis killed certain demographics, they also executed entire villages.

I'm actually trying to clear up blurry lines about what the Nazis did do, were assumed to be doing and what we assumed they would do.

In no way am I defending them, they were evil bastards. But sometimes we have an issue with history, where we assume hypothetical as reality.

trump appointee rick perry needs removing by force.
fossil fuels can prevent rape, yes you read that right.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Today I had a haircut therefore Trump causes death and mayhem.

Seriously bro - you're too emotionally invested, now you're thinking about him when you could be having beers or shagging.

Do you say that to the Trump supports of this site who write a thread a day supporting him?

a reply to: loam ya know a funny thing about what you assume. All the Trump supporters I know don't even have a sticker on the living room window or a car bumper. Just for some contrast I am raised Okie and live in Nevada.

a reply to: ketsuko



Exactly!

...but, hypothetically, with 33% more breasts.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: angeldoll

You obviously missed my point.

That's certainly a possibility. I was responding to this

I'd be willing to bet that oversimplification (which includes most hypotheticals) is the very stuff that 'justifies' most wars.

Yeah, I ignored all that "posters on the wall" stuff because it had no interest for me.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Today I had a haircut therefore Trump causes death and mayhem.

Seriously bro - you're too emotionally invested, now you're thinking about him when you could be having beers or shagging.

Do you say that to the Trump supports supporters of this site who write a thread a day supporting him?

Get your sh!t together, this is about you, not ATS members whom I may or may not support..

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Today I had a haircut therefore Trump causes death and mayhem.

Seriously bro - you're too emotionally invested, now you're thinking about him when you could be having beers or shagging.

Do you say that to the Trump supports of this site who write a thread a day supporting him?

Just ignore him, he likes to take cheap potshots at anybody who dares criticise his beloved glorious leader Trump. You'll get nowhere.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Today I had a haircut therefore Trump causes death and mayhem.

Seriously bro - you're too emotionally invested, now you're thinking about him when you could be having beers or shagging.

Do you say that to the Trump supports supporters of this site who write a thread a day supporting him?

Get your sh!t together, this is about you, not ATS members whom I may or may not support..

how very articulate off you

Now would you care to comment on the OP or are you just going to continue with the personal attacks against me.

If I really annoy you that much and you don't have anything to really add to my threads then you don't have to come along and comment on everyone of them with your fantasy about my emotional involvement with Trump.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
So just a quick thread (i hope).

I mean this to be entirely hypothetical, I am not, saying I support this, I am only wanting to open up a discussion about this possibility.

So….

Lets pretend for a moment that Trump is on the verge of starting WW3, he is instructing his military chiefs to ready the nukes, millions of Americans and other nationals are going to die and its all because Trump has got a itchy trigger figure.

It is believed that if he were not in office the crisis could be averted.

Should he (or another world leader for that matter) be removed by force, by that I mean a full coup d’etat. If Trump was to be viewed as a major national security risk, a domestic threat to the survival of the nation, would it then be justifiable for the military or intelligence services to remove him (or again any other leader) by force.

Personally I think yes.

I think if we were in a situation whereby Trump was preparing to launch a full attack against North Korea for example, where it is believe the resulting loss of live would be phenomenal, and further to this it was possible to deescalate the crisis by removing him from office then it would be justifiable as it would prevent a catastrophic loss of life.

However I also understand the significant objections that this could raise, it would be a slap in the face to democracy, it would cause a constitutional crisis, it would raise the question about how far to go, would it be enough just to remove Trump or would it have to go further.

So what would your views be on this.

You try and cloud your OP with things like "or any other president for that matter", but everyone here knows you wouldn't be asking this question if it weren't for Trump.

The fact that out of one side of your mouth you can pretend to be against authoritarianism and in the next breath talk about removing a democratically elected president BY FORCE no less, shows your true colours.

Authoritarian through and through, just like the majority of socialists. The sad thing is, none of you even realise you are, you feel like you are entitled or special, because you have the weight of your FB and Twatter feeds behind you, all those people agreeing with you. Surely with so many people agreeing with you, you MUST be in the right, yeah?

So who cares about those "Nazi's" or "bigots" on the other side. Who cares about their thoughts, ideologies or freedoms, BECAUSE THEY'RE WRONG. So they must be removed by force...

SMDH.

I am embarrased on behalf of all the other British members....

How do you know that a coup at this point does not actually cause the very thing you feel this would prevent.

During a coup there is quite a bit of confusion, who is in charge who will do the negotiating with the foreign powers and call off the attack.

a reply to: Dem0nc1eaner

I am embarrased on behalf of all the other British members....

I don't know how to tell you this....

I dont represent all British members so there is no need to be embarrassed for them.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

the information about the nuclear chain of command on the internet or to the public is vague for a purpose, there is a little truthful and a lot of speculation available. the reason for the vagueness is to keep it from being exploited and defeated or cause confusion during a luanch order. i learned about informing other while i was in the Corps and a guard of nuclear weapons.

there is one question that's seem to be a stickler, is if the weapons used are on a base in a NATO country, could that country veto the use. there seems to be no answer that i've heard.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Today I had a haircut therefore Trump causes death and mayhem.

Seriously bro - you're too emotionally invested, now you're thinking about him when you could be having beers or shagging.

You seemed so much nicer and smarter when you had that "wise old man avatar". Sigh.
Maybe if you put it back?

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

there is one question that's seem to be a stickler, is if the weapons used are on a base in a NATO country, could that country veto the use. there seems to be no answer that i've heard.

That sounds like a interesting conundrum I wonder if they have a solution for it now.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

they may have come to some sort of agreement, but like i said i haven't heard if they have.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

I think that's because most of his voters don't really support Trump the man, but rather the promise that he might usher in the change they desire.

People are sick of the swamp, the consequence of globalism, and the establishment's hollow promises.

The right, like many of the left with Bernie, tried something new.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

He wont last until the new year anyways.. but to your question the answer is YES

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Dem0nc1eaner

I am embarrased on behalf of all the other British members....

I don't know how to tell you this....

I dont represent all British members so there is no need to be embarrassed for them.

It looks like you did know how to tell me that, but were actually trying to sound as smarmy as possible, go figure...