Prince William warns that there are too many people in the world

And just when you have thrown your hands up and surrendered ...... you come across those making a difference.

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intresting what the hilary wing says

originally posted by: Baddogma

Those saying "But the U.S. has lots of room" are ignorant of the vast mess in Asia and other third world areas. It IS killing our ecosystem... well, it's really the deforestation and pollution from industrialization, but same difference.

Your main point is limiting reproduction worldwide, or just in the "problem areas"? Who will oversee and enforce such measures? How would you convince an already relatively free people to commit their destinies to what I'll assume is government mandated family sizes?

It's folly. What we "should" be doing is making people more self sufficient and responsible for their own needs. Utilizing renewable methods for growing food in ways that are restorative rather than destructive to the land. We needs to break up monopolies either while this is happening or very shortly after, because they are are the purveyors of scarcity in order to control a market.

There IS enough room for everyone and quite a few billion more if resources were more effectively applied to education and research.

Sacrificing your ability to reproduce by way of consent is bowing out to authoritarianism, just as much as being made to do the same thing will only cause severe resistance yielding an undesirable backlash.

I don't agree with you at all, but I would hope you might consider the many alternatives besides limiting family size. That is not the cure all.

Population is not the problem (yet), food is not the problem we can easily meet the worlds needs for food (if we stop paying farmers to not plant, or plant non food corn for ethanol) , the problem is and will be fresh water.

So much of our fresh water is contaminated its scary, and we missed the boat to getting access to the biggest deposit left, and have still not protected our fresh water from china.

Why not drop a nuke on London,that would be a good start,eliminate a band of thieves,they can be self serving in their socialistic outlook

a reply to: Oldtimer2

City of London, Washington & Rome - the 3 ruling Cities of the world

www.sinhalanet.net...

a reply to: neoholographic

I am British and actually think he is definitely NOT qualified to remark on this point as indeed neither is his grandfather.

It is not the number of people that is the problem it is how we are living today, how we as a species are not seeking answers and so the obvious knee jerk reaction of the elite has and will always be CULL THE POPULATION - KILL THE POOR.

The Tory's party of the UK has always had and still has the core conceptual ideology of NATURAL WASTAGE OF THE EXCESS POPULATION which mean's if they are not useful to the elite they should be allowed to die off through natural causes - aka no health care for them at all or even bump them off as useless mouth's to feed burden the economy.

The elite of the First world war were so frightened by the rise of the Soviet Union and the overthrow of the class system there that there have been claim's that they artificially prolonged the first world war as a means' to kill off as many working and lower class men as possible in order to stave off a socialist revolt in the western nation's but the truth of this is of course debatable.

BUT THE SIMPLE FACT IS that the earth could hold so many more people with absolutely no problem at all and the restraints upon us doing so are economic not resources or ingenuity and it would require concerted state action not private enterprise to perform this necessary adaptation to a new form of civilization for humanity as a whole.

The sea could be colonized YES, the underground could have city's built in it YES and even the sky could be colonized YES.

The SKY, think of old fashioned sky scrapers as a baby learning to walk taking it's first step's then look at the structure of the Eiffel Tower, widen it a little in relation to it's height, use modern building techniques and stronger material's then scale it up a thousand fold or more and put glass or reinforced transparency's in it's sides and place floor's with room to spare in it like a ladder of floor's reaching into the sky with more space seperating the lower floors so as to maximize light coming in from the sides, make these floor deck's strong and plant trees on them, field's and crop's - entire high yield modern hydroponic farm's, entire animal sanctuary's including forests were people only go to ensure maintenance of the building is maintained and even town's or village like community's, think about it like Dark Star One but for real and on earth not in space.

Make a huge city of these thing's, some of them with there leg's in the waters of the ocean and suspended roadways between them connecting them, then see a world that could with ease hold maybe half a trillion or even more people perhaps even far in excess of a trillion people with ease while leaving room for the animal's, giving everyone breathing space and quiet places and even leaving much of the continent's to the wild life and of course the elite still get there pent houses and nature reserves so why are they so dumb.


Then look at the rich plan for the poor that is actually being used as the only feasible - but in fact is simply the easy - option and understand the criminal, evil and utterly degenerate mind's those elite have or perhaps the criminally stupid advisers whom are plying them with these idea's.

a reply to: neoholographic

There is not too many people in the world - old Malthusian claptrap



www.fightaging.org...

3) What some presently view as "overpopulation" is more accurately described as crushing poverty amidst the potential for plenty and resources left unused. This is the result of despotism, corruption, economic ignorance, short-sighted greed and the inhumanity of man unto man - it is not a matter of counting heads

a reply to: LABTECH767

What a great post


It reminded me of the so called "Potato Famine" - Genocide in real terms


www.irishhistorylinks.net...

The Famine, or An Górta Mór, the Great Hunger, took more than one million lives, between those that died of starvation and those that left Ireland for a better life in America or elsewhere in the world. Those who were left behind in Ireland experienced a desperation that led to a massive change in politics and nationalism - it was only a few years later, in 1858 that the Irish Republican Brotherhood was founded.

The British government and the British and Irish Protestant landowners still required the Irish peasants and laborers to pay their rent for the land they could not work due to the blight and the hunger upon them. In a lush island surrounded by water teaming with fish and land that fattened pig and cattle alike, how could one failed crop cause a Famine? According to British law, Irish Catholics could not apply for fishing or hunting licenses.

Their pigs and cattle were sent to England to feed the British and to export for trade, while the landlords kept the fine cuts for themselves. Ireland was part of the British Empire, the most powerful empire in the world at that time - yet the British government stood by and did nothing to help their subjects overcome this hardship. In our time, an enforced famine such as this would be labeled genocide yet in the 1800s it was merely an unfortunate tragedy.

Time for this little Willy to kill his grand dad, who will then return as a nasty globalist killer virus.

I bet little Willy is already having a wet dream thinking about the idea.

originally posted by: Gothmog
Will he be the first to launch himself head first into space ?
If you brought every single person in the world together into the State of Texas , there would be at least a 1' radius around everyone
Africa is 3% populated. Of that 3% , 97% live on or near the coast.
Some folks have no capacity at all to think rationally , much less logically

DO NOT BRING ALL THOSE PEOPLE TO TEXAS. This is your only warning.

originally posted by: Hyperboles
a reply to: neoholographic

Yes the planet is overpopulated

By what metric do you make that claim?

originally posted by: 4003fireglo

originally posted by: Gothmog
Will he be the first to launch himself head first into space ?
If you brought every single person in the world together into the State of Texas , there would be at least a 1' radius around everyone
Africa is 3% populated. Of that 3% , 97% live on or near the coast.
Some folks have no capacity at all to think rationally , much less logically

DO NOT BRING ALL THOSE PEOPLE TO TEXAS. This is your only warning.

I watched a video one time about the human population of the planet, it said that if we turned all of Texas into an urban infrastructure identical to New York City and the rest of the USA into farmland we could feed every human being and leave the rest of the planet alone.

All I could think was "This guy obviously doesn't know anyone from Texas."

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: neoholographic

speaking as a "bloody yank" ....who cares what the Duke of Cambridge thinks

Yes, and he is adding to the population, 'another bun in the oven' I read.

The thing is, enough food is already being produced, distribution is the bottle neck, I read a couple of years ago that grain being harvested in India was rotting by the road side as they had no where to store, and no way to move it, Perhaps those huge aircraft carriers past their shelf life could be used to store and transport grain ? No, we want to scrap them, or make then into artificial reefs, I agree with the reefs, but why scrap them ? Crazy world.

originally posted by: EternalShadow
Your main point is limiting reproduction worldwide, or just in the "problem areas"?

Yep. The population in the developed world has stabilised. This is a combination of the empowerment of women who can choose, education, things like improved child mortality, and the rapid change to societal norms.

The "problem areas" are countries and cultures where women cannot choose and where public and personal healthcare is backwards. The Middle East and East, West and Central Africa are areas where there is uncontrolled population growth.

I think Prince William is right. It stands to reason that the population of the world is too high when the natural environment is being destroyed and wasted.

a reply to: 5StarOracle

That could be more aptly seen as a warning that a culling of life is "needed" or "necessary" and limiting birth as a suggestion is to lesson the truth that a major war with tremendous loss of life is needed...

and a world war.

originally posted by: Gothmog
Will he be the first to launch himself head first into space ?
If you brought every single person in the world together into the State of Texas , there would be at least a 1' radius around everyone
Africa is 3% populated. Of that 3% , 97% live on or near the coast.
Some folks have no capacity at all to think rationally , much less logically

no....not true.... everyone fits into one county.......with 4 square feet per person in the entire world

on a map....that group of people in the world gathered looks like a dot....a period

a reply to: shooterbrody

we whooped his ancestors redcoat wearing asses

Who is " We " ?

You must mean The colonist traitors, French, Spanish and Dutch.

he should worry about his tiny island

A " Tiny Island " that conquered one third of The Earths land mass, and gave the world, The U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

Not bad for a tiny island eh ?