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The notion of Russia attempting to influence American elections isn’t particularly new. In 1960 and 1968, Soviet spies reached out to Democratic candidates to offer assistance in the form of friendly propaganda or secret funding.
Both of the candidates in question, Adlai Stevenson and Hubert Humphrey, turned down their offer (and went on to lose their campaigns).
In 1976, the KGB tried a different tactic, forging FBI documents suggesting that hardline anti-Communist Sen. Scoop Jackson was gay, then sending them off to different newspapers in a bid to derail his campaign.
It was a kind of precursor to the weaponization of fake news we saw last cycle, with Russian bots sharing anti-Clinton innuendo on Facebook and Twitter.
The Russian bid to influence the 2016 combined outreach to a potentially friendly campaign and spreading fake news with the theft of Clinton’s private emails.
It was a comprehensive campaign, one far more aggressive and far-reaching than its Soviet-era precursors — and it never would have really worked without a campaign like Trump’s to bounce off of.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: pavil
I agree. I just hear guilty people say how can you trust a guy that lies when talking about informants.
originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: xuenchen Do you have any proof of this or is that just another fall back of yours? You seem to have alot of those. Go to bed your drunk dude.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: olaru12
Or who else is or could be wearing a wire?
Pretty sure everyone is thinking that in the administration right now.
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: pavil
I agree. I just hear guilty people say how can you trust a guy that lies when talking about informants.
And was he wearing a wire....some think so.
Papadopoulos could be Muellers secret weapon with the real deal.
www.slate.com...
originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: kelbtalfenek
What exactly do you think Pap's pled guilty to?
Edit Here, I will help you:
Papadopoulos pleaded guilty on Oct. 5 to one count of lying to FBI agents about the nature of his interactions with "foreign nationals" who he thought had close connections to senior Russian government officials.
It's looking more and more like this guy was a nobody who wanted to be a somebody.
originally posted by: smurfy
As for Professor Mifsud, the paper's story is somewhat contradictory, since it says,"We are academics. We work closely with everybody.”
while later it says, '“absolutely no contact” with the Russian government and was instead just an academic who didn’t even speak Russian.'
originally posted by: carewemust
Since he grew up in my neck of the woods I would tend to agree agre. nobody who wanted to pretend like he was somebody. That is essentially what the Washington Post said in their write up about him in March of 2016.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: butcherguy
Trump's claim was political wire tapping. Not that his campaign manager was a scumbag and has been under investigation for about a decade.
originally posted by: olaru12
Papadopoulos could be Muellers secret weapon with the real deal.
originally posted by: butcherguy
We still don't know that he wasn't right about the political part.
It matters not, because when he said it, he was ridiculed for saying it happened at all, not for a reason.... and was denied by all that were actually aware of it.
Almost all his work appears to have revolved around the role of Greece, Cyprus and an Israeli natural gas discovery in the eastern Mediterranean. Yet Jonathan Stern, director of gas research at the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies, said when asked about Papadopoulos: “He does ring a very faint bell but he’s not written anything very significant on East Mediterranean natural gas and pipelines that I can remember.”
But his claim to have served for several years as a fellow at the Washington-based Hudson Institute was refuted by David Tell, Hudson senior fellow and director of public affairs, who said the institute’s “records indicate that Mr. Papadopoulos started here as an unpaid intern in 2011 and subsequently provided some contractual research assistance to one of our senior fellows.”
Papadopoulos also lists attendance as “U.S. Representative at the 2012 Geneva International Model United Nations.” Two people who were part of the delegation that year, including Antony Papadopoulos (no relation), current secretary general of the Geneva program, said they had no recollection of him being there.
He has been awarded by the U.S.
State Department as a finalist to represent the United States at UNESCO in 2011.
In 2011 Hillary Rodham Clinton became the first sitting Secretary of State to visit UNESCO...
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: butcherguy
We still don't know that he wasn't right about the political part.
It matters not, because when he said it, he was ridiculed for saying it happened at all, not for a reason.... and was denied by all that were actually aware of it.
What he was ridiculed for wasn't the assertion that he was under surveilance. It was that Obama broke several laws, and personally ordered surveilance of a private citizen outside of an investigation, just to obtain blackmail material.
originally posted by: HeadCrunchMcRockGroin
originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: raymundoko
OK, so your OP is more credible than Mueller, and Papadobopoulos has already pled guilty...Hmmmm.
If there's a crime, there's a crime. You don't plea guilty if you didn't do the crime, or another more serious crime.
He plead guilty to a process crime of lying.