Multiple People Shot in Manhattan: Sources

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: DerBeobachter

News reports say entered country in 2010 as refugee.........

And Sheppard Smith (Fox News) carefully laid out tonight's Halloween parade route for all wanna-be terrorists. He's a real idiot sometimes.

You do know that parade routes in big cities are always made public, right? That's how people know where to set up their chairs.

Any wanna-be terrorist can find out very easily.

But like me, NJ/NY/CT terrorist wanna-be's probably didn't know there was a big Halloween parade in Manhattan tonight. As we saw today, it only takes ONE to kill many innocents.

So are you saying we should not make parade routes public?

Then what is the point of having a parade?

I'm not sure of your logic here, or lack thereof.

The only thing left to find out is the name of his FBI handler.

originally posted by: starviego
The only thing left to find out is the name of his FBI handler.

Wait, I thought this was Islamic terror.

So it's not? It was a FBI operation?

originally posted by: face23785
Hey, if it saves one life...

We could all put limiters on our cars so they'd only drive 5 miles per hour, and that would save around 35,000 people a year!

a reply to: carewemust


Did anyone get the point about not disarming law abiding citizens who are always the target of these terrorists and criminals? How the terrorists/criminals always get deadly weapons, including common things like knives or cars? How about that guns are the most effective means of protecting oneself against these threats? Or that police do a great job, but can't possibly always be close enough to arrive in time to stop a crime in progress?

Of course not, those points will just be dismissed outright without any actual consideration.

BTW, I agree with your point. The travel moratorium and screening EO from Trump didn't include his country of origin anyhow, so it isn't even at question.

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: TheRedneck

He's a 29 year old Uzbec national who came to the US in 2010.

source breaking911

Is Uzbekistan on the travel ban list?

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: DerBeobachter


What does this have to do with the President exactly?

His temporary travel moratorium & appropriate screening program did not include Uzbekistan to my knowledge.

...and he would have gotten away with it had it not been for those pesky kids and your facts.

a reply to: Taggart

I do not believe it was. I am not 100% certain, because a lot of sites will only list the Muslim majority nations banned instead of giving the inclusive list (in a bit of dishonest reporting). However, I know NK and Venezuela are among those nations. I am pretty sure Uzbekistan isn't listed though.

originally posted by: Taggart

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: TheRedneck

He's a 29 year old Uzbec national who came to the US in 2010.

source breaking911

Is Uzbekistan on the travel ban list?

No. It shouldn't be either. Neither should Iran.

Saudi Arabia would have been my first choice but the travel ban was never about stopping potential terrorists, or muslims, from entering America.

originally posted by: Taggart

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: TheRedneck

He's a 29 year old Uzbec national who came to the US in 2010.

source breaking911

Is Uzbekistan on the travel ban list?

No Uzbek is not on travel ban. He came over as a refugee.

originally posted by: Taggart

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: TheRedneck

He's a 29 year old Uzbec national who came to the US in 2010.

source breaking911

Is Uzbekistan on the travel ban list?

Would it matter if he came here in 2010?

a reply to: Xcathdra

So true

I do not understand why some people want to connect everything back to the President in one way or another. Instead of seeing his travel bans as what they are (national security measures within the POTUS scope), they spin it as some kind of biased attack against certain religions.

Just IMHO

a reply to: Ohanka

We have no formal diplomatic relations with Iran so yes it should be on the list.

originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: Taggart

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: TheRedneck

He's a 29 year old Uzbec national who came to the US in 2010.

source breaking911

Is Uzbekistan on the travel ban list?

Would it matter if he came here in 2010?

It wouldn't have stopped him no, but if not on the travel ban list the travel ban wouldn't stop anyone from Uzbekistan in 2017 either.

a reply to: JBurns

just being hypothetical!

a reply to: Xcathdra


It really makes you wonder when our people start defending NK and Iran. They are co-sponsors of terror, and Iran likely aided NK's missile program which would account for their rapid developments in that technology.

They weren't supposed to have nuclear armed ICBMs until the 2020's.

originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: Taggart

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: TheRedneck

He's a 29 year old Uzbec national who came to the US in 2010.

source breaking911

Is Uzbekistan on the travel ban list?

Would it matter if he came here in 2010?

His name means "sword of allah"

Who vetted this guy?

Brigitte Gabriel is going off on this now.

We just got an anti terror squad here in HK.

This kind of attack would be devastating here.

They put up the vehicle barriers last nite in Lan Kwai Fong for the halloween celebrations. It's a big bar/club area in Central.

What does the travel ban have to do with this? I'll admit I was initially curious as to whether or not the delay in implementation caused this guy to enter the US, but as it turns out that was not the case (as I suspected). Debating a travel ban on the basis of someone who was not affected by the travel ban is sorta... silly...

If anything, the debate should be centered around preventing such individuals to enter however that must be implemented. I do not believe putting Uzbekistan, Turkmeinistan, Whateveristan on some travel ban is realistic. The countries already on the ban are large enough and their vetting procedures are suspect enough to merit special attention... Uzbekistan is not.

I believe we need to focus more on our own vetting process overall. If any foreign national cannot reasonably guarantee they are not going to commit a terrorist act, they should be restricted from entering the US. Country of origin does not appear to be a guarantee of decency, so all countries should receive enough vetting to reasonably assure us that the entrant will not try to kill a bunch of people while here.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Ok. How do we approach the vetting process if we learn these sorts of people are radicalized here at home in the US?

He's being operated on, I would take out all his intestines, stomach and kidney's and put them in a jar next to his bed when he wakes up.

Point to them and tell him to start talking.

But that's just me.