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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
A very inept one meant to diminish and belittle the significance of the situation which is what I was calling out to begin with.
originally posted by: Kali74
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: Kali74
Flynn or Page next?
Or someone from parts 20 on in the indictment.
You know, company A or B that lobbied for Russia.
Now who would would that be....
Why don't you tell us? Just remember that the Democrats wanted Ukraine on Europe's side and the Republicans wanted Ukraine on the Russia side.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Some do. Some say it's possible. Some say it's probable. Most say Manafort is dirty regardless of anything else. Now he's busted, thus not a waste of time nor tax dollars.
If I spend endless money investigating you for murder and end up arresting you for shoplifting, that is a waste of money.
originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: face23785
HuffPost
Prosecutors’ statement of the offense alleges Papadopoulos “made material false statements and material omissions” during a Jan. 27, 2017, interview with the FBI. He was arrested July 27. Prosecutors agreed to recommend between no prison time to six months under the plea agreement.
Papadopoulos told the FBI an overseas professor had “told him about the Russians possessing ‘dirt’ on then-candidate Hillary Clinton in the form of ‘thousands of emails,’ but stated multiple times that he learned that information prior to joining the campaign,” according to court documents. In fact, Papadopoulos was contacted after he learned he’d be joining the campaign, and the professor only mentioned the “thousands of emails” after he’d been on the Trump campaign for more than a month.
The professor, the statement indicates, had “substantial connections to Russian government officials” even though Papadopoulos claimed the professor was “a nothing.”
Oh boy, a professor connected to Russian government officials. And he didn't even lie about having contact with this professor, he lied about when it was. That really breaks the case, don't it?
originally posted by: theantediluvian
originally posted by: DBCowboy
is there a statue of Manafort I can knock down?
No but I heard if we don't put up a statue to Manafort, history will repeat itself.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
originally posted by: DBCowboy
is there a statue of Manafort I can knock down?
No but I heard if we don't put up a statue to Manafort, history will repeat itself.
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Some do. Some say it's possible. Some say it's probable. Most say Manafort is dirty regardless of anything else. Now he's busted, thus not a waste of time nor tax dollars.
If I spend endless money investigating you for murder and end up arresting you for shoplifting, that is a waste of money.
Not quite the same thing though is it?
Publicly McCain and his campaign chief’s lobbying firm were on opposite sides. In 2005 McCain had nominated Orange Revolution hero Yushchenko for the Nobel Prize, and that spring he’d honored Yushchenko in the headquarters of the International Republican Institute, whose board McCain has chaired since 1993. But behind the scenes the former head of IRI’s Moscow office, Philip Griffin, was recruited by Manafort to work on Yanukovich’s campaign against Yushchenko. Davis Manafort’s work was considered so detrimental to US interests that a National Security Council official called McCain’s office to complain, according to the New York Times. The McCain campaign denies receiving the NSC complaint.
Aside from a little campaign dough, what has McCain gotten out of all this? It’s hard to tell–either he was utterly clueless while his top advisers and political allies ran around the former Soviet domain promoting the Kremlin’s interests for cash, or he was aware of it and didn’t care. McCain was reportedly so angry about Davis Manafort’s role in stifling Ukraine’s Orange Revolution that he almost removed Davis as campaign manager. But in the case of Montenegro, he should have known what Davis & Co. were up to. After all, McCain lent a helping hand. And by the time he visited the country, the Russian takeover was plain to see.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
originally posted by: DBCowboy
is there a statue of Manafort I can knock down?
No but I heard if we don't put up a statue to Manafort, history will repeat itself.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: windword
I am saying that if lack of an anti-Russian stance is evidence of Russian collusion or manipulation than both parties are guilty of it.
Russia has clearly been busy undermining both, and it's a mistake to suddenly get all up in arms over just this past election when clearly both parties are now undermined.
‘Just $1 to help us’: Eric Trump email after Manafort indictment asks for cash because dad’s ‘still standing’
President Donald Trump’s campaign on Monday blasted out a fundraising email, asking donors to contribute after the indictment of former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort. On the same day that news broke that Manafort had been indicted on 12 counts, Trump voters found a fundraising request from Eric Trump in their inboxes with the subject line “Still Standing.” “There’s a new opposition against my father and this Administration every day,” Eric Trump wrote. “But as a loyal supporter, I know you know the truth.” “Please make a contribution of just $1 to help us crush our goal this month,” the email pleaded.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: ketsuko
Honestly, I don't know where you're going with that. The GOP has, historically, been "anti-Russian" on their political platform, including protecting the Ukraine against Russia's illegal annexation, and arming Ukraine rebel to protect US and Ukraine interests against Russian territorial violations.
It was at the GOP National Convention that Manafort, serving as Trump's Campaign manager, after it was clear that Trump would win the nomination, brokered a deal to remove all anti-Russian political stances from the GOP and Republican Party's official platform.
Report: Ex-Trump campaign manager was millions in debt to pro-Russia interests
You can deflect and say "But Obama" and "What about Hillary" all you want, but this indictment points right back to Trump and his Campaign.
Trump campaign guts GOP’s anti-Russia stance on Ukraine
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Some do. Some say it's possible. Some say it's probable. Most say Manafort is dirty regardless of anything else. Now he's busted, thus not a waste of time nor tax dollars.
If I spend endless money investigating you for murder and end up arresting you for shoplifting, that is a waste of money.
Not quite the same thing though is it?
Did I mistakenly write “it’s the same as” somewhere in there? My apologies.