An Olive Branch

I chose the Mud-Pit for this thread because I feel it is the forum that people can actually say what they want, how they want to say it, to a certain extent anyway.

Welcome to all who wish to join in this process.

As we all are aware of, there is a tremendous political divide in the U.S. What starts wars? Politics is one thing that starts them.

Why don't we start working together? The ATS political community.

What if we worked together to nominate a candidate for President in 2020 that most, if not all, of us can agree upon.

We have been letting our differences divide us.

Wouldn't it be better to let our common interests lead us?

Let me know if you are interested.

a reply to: 3daysgone

You're on the right track and I commend you for your initiative.

Problem is - Now?

What kind of 'leader' would everyone accept - for good?

The divide is so wide - who could fill the shoes for all parties?

I think I know who it is but I'll not throw the thread off by talking about the Anti Christ.

What I do know is most are looking with great expectations for a 'GOOD LEADER'!

But - who is it that would appeal to all?

peace

a reply to: silo13

But - who is it that would appeal to all?

That is what I want to find out. Maybe, just maybe someone knows.
We definitely need names to research. There are some excellent researchers on ATS.

a reply to: 3daysgone

I like trey gowdy, at least what I've seen . . .

Could be worse...you could have someone like Merkel leading the country. Better than corrupt Hillary just sayin

a reply to: 3daysgone

What if we worked together to nominate a candidate for President in 2020 that most, if not all, of us can agree upon.

Tom Hanks!

a reply to: windword

Bill Murray

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: 3daysgone

What if we worked together to nominate a candidate for President in 2020 that most, if not all, of us can agree upon.

Tom Hanks!

James Woods!

a reply to: 3daysgone

Bless you for trying to make peace, and for being constructive.

My personal fear is that the type of folks that seek these leadership positions, are usually the type of person you wouldn't trust with the treasury of your kid's Judo-club.

It's a den of wolves. Snake-pit. Swamp filled with evil swamp-creatures.

a reply to: 3daysgone

I don't have anyone to nominate but I have a few characteristics that I would be looking for: 1. not a career politician, 2. an iconoclast, 3. proven to be intrepid, 4. of moderate to high intelligence, 5. indefatigable, 6. not on social media. Is there anyone who can fit that bill?

originally posted by: denybedoomed
a reply to: 3daysgone

I like trey gowdy, at least what I've seen . . .

Then Gowdy shall make the list. I need you to research everything you can about him. I need to know what you like and what you dislike in a completely unbiased manner if we are to make this work.

Our lord and savior, Darth Vader.

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
Could be worse...you could have someone like Merkel leading the country.

Better than corrupt Hillary just sayin

I do agree, but who do you think that we could get the most people to agree upon to run for President?

There is a process we used to use when I was in grade school called creative problem solving.

Basically, we were posed a problem. In this case, the problem is presidential candidates for 2020. We had to do two things in order to enact creative problem solving.

First, we had to come up with a list of 4 to 6 important criteria for our solution. So in this case, a list of the 4 to 6 most important things in a presidential candidate.

Then we brainstormed a list of possible solutions and narrowed it down to a list of our best.

Then you made a grid and rated each solution against each criteria from first to worst for that criteria and tallied them for their score to see which one was overall best.

There was actually a competition for it statewide. Our team was quite good.

a reply to: 3daysgone

Gimme a bit, I'm on mobile, and well, it wil take a bit.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: 3daysgone

What if we worked together to nominate a candidate for President in 2020 that most, if not all, of us can agree upon.

Tom Hanks!

Can you do the research and present an argument as to why you think he would be the one that most would agree upon?

originally posted by: ketsuko
There is a process we used to use when I was in grade school called creative problem solving.

Basically, we were posed a problem. In this case, the problem is presidential candidates for 2020. We had to do two things in order to enact creative problem solving.

First, we had to come up with a list of 4 to 6 important criteria for our solution. So in this case, a list of the 4 to 6 most important things in a presidential candidate.

Then we brainstormed a list of possible solutions and narrowed it down to a list of our best.

Then you made a grid and rated each solution against each criteria from first to worst for that criteria and tallied them for their score to see which one was overall best.

There was actually a competition for it statewide. Our team was quite good.

That is excellent. A list is needed then. It will probably be pretty long I would imagine.

a reply to: denybedoomed

No problem.

The last thing we need is another freakin' celebrity. No.

It's a wonderful sentiment, if a bit naive. Unfortunately, when 61% of Donald Trump followers say that they will stick with him no matter what he says or does, the sentiment is completely lost on millions of Americans.

Once the USA is through the Trump and TEA Party era, it's going to take a Herculean effort to deprogram the minds of people who think that style of politics is normal. Until then, the threat of a second Civil War will continue along with the political divide.

Trying to sway the mind of a Donald Trump supporter (even when they are clearly, clearly wrong) is a futile task. I don't know how the United States is going to get back to their pre 2008 normalcy in politics without going through a process of massive upheaval. So many people just can't see that the current level of discourse is not normal, and won't lead to positive results for the country.

Unfortunately, it's not just happening in America. There is a wave of alt right Nationalism sweeping the planet in country after country as politicians on the far right fringes mimic the success of Donald Trump to win power. It's a frightening place to be, but if you look at history, the world is really in about the same position it was in about 1928.

An economic crash right now will lead to an even bigger surge of far right nationalism and populist policies, leading to the rise of unreasonable candidates with unreasonable positions that will make promises that they will never keep just to get elected.

The dumbing down of America is almost complete. Right now, the average education level in the country is about Grade 6, meaning millions of Americans are actually way less educated than even that. With low education comes the chance for charlatans to step in with ideas that sound good, but in reality will simply be used to make the population believe that they are being patriotic in supporting these extreme ideas.

Only when it's too late, will they see what many of us saw all along. If they see it at all.

Until you can sway the minds of millions, you'll never get everyone to agree to a candidate this way. Even coming up with 4 - 6 things you'd like to see in a candidate will be a futile exercise once its hijacked by the far right.