Astonishing 50 kids a week referred to sex change clinics in the UK

a reply to: Wulfrida

well Im sure that together both men and women and everything in between can come together and resolve our differences as we are better together and communicating than shutting off and not having open discussion!

I feel that I have already taken steps to adjust to the modern world, thanks to you passing on some knowledge
whether it makes sense to me or not at the moment I want to digest it.

it is unfair that we dont challenge these aspects of society and correct them , but only where it needs correcting.

It is also unfair that we have some built in advantage

originally posted by: Wulfrida
a reply to: melatonin

As usual all the transactivists have are ad hominem attacks and vague feelings of what they presume womanhood to be.

Except for the part which clearly illustrated your inability to understand your own evidence.

Funnist thing... was watching a documentary about the Muxes phenomenon in Mexico the other day. That has developed within what is generally perceived as a matriarchal society, effectively zapotec.

In contrast, the same Muxes face prejudice and discrimination in typical catholic patriarchal areas of mexico.

en.wikipedia.org...

Funny old world innit?

a reply to: melatonin

I Absolutely made a mistake regarding the crime rate amongst ftt people. Turns out they are more damgerous with testosterone. That doesnt negate the awfulness of kids being pushed into transsexualiy, in inappropriate nature of mtt in women's spaces, or your personal attacks.

originally posted by: melatonin
Seriously trying to argue that kids showing gender dysphoria is due to peer pressure?

Kids and adults who are bullied, harassed, ridiculed, and marginalised in school and wider society - that is positive encouragement?

Gotta be kidding me, lol. Whatever next D:

why is it so damn hard for people on this site to wrap their heads around this? all these rants about how it's cool to be trans and all the kids are being forced into it when actual real life for trans people is little more than a continuous series of kicks to the teeth, and people here just point blank refuse to get it.

i won't be opening this one again but i wanted to thank you so much for your attempts to be rational in this hate-crime horror that somehow gets away with calling itself a thread. it genuinely means so much to have someone in my corner here.

a reply to: continuousThunder

not sure how you can take a thread and class it as a hate crime , when it falls perfectly within the terms and conditions of ATS , no rules are being broken here.


Also life in general for everyone is really a series of kicks in the teeth and only a very small few actually go through life without pain and suffering.
So I understand that trans people have it rough , but so does the rest of humanity

originally posted by: Wulfrida
Privilege isnt conscious. My boys arent naturally aware how lucky they are not to be judged by their attractiveness, or passivity. I have an opinion, I get called crazy. That device isnt used against men.

I'm sorry but many women judge men just the same. Once again you are suggesting that all men judge women strictly by a superficial standard of beauty, but most do not do this anymore. Male privilege is vastly over rated. Sure some countries are still really bad, but in most of western society, people treat women and men equally. A woman can do anything a man can do. Granted, not all women are built for heavy duty manual labor and most men have a higher sexual appetite, but women can succeed in society just as easily as men now. They are just as smart. Things have very much improved as far as women's rights and equality goes.

If you are wondering why our society was built on the male dominant patriarchy, look no further than the bible and Abrahamic faiths. That influenced a large amount of the culture we live in, including males being superior to females. Women weren't allowed to be priests or hold positions of power in the church. It took a long time before we even started accepting that and many sects of Christianity still don't allow it.

They probably don't even need therapy. It's over attentive helicopter parents being ultra protective of their children.

a reply to: Barcs

You are seriously trying to tell me we have equality between the sexes in the USA?

Not even close, not in businesses, not in earnings, not in violence towards women perpetrated by men. Not in any proveable statistic.

www.google.com...

If you look at the sleb news, the language used for women, is far more based on their physical attributes. There are plenty of studies like this one that show women are objectified.

m.huffpost.com...

Male privilege is real.

a reply to: Wulfrida

I didn't say that we have complete equality, Wulfrida. I said that equality has improved a crapload and has been getting better. That's undeniable. We had a female presidential candidate for the first time last year and women hold prominent positions all over the place. Obviously it's not perfect and there are still men out there that treat women unfairly, but male privilege is very highly exaggerated. I never had anything handed to me in life because I was a male, in fact it was more like the opposite, working for mostly female supervisors and managers in my career, but I never complained once when women were promoted over me, even when I'm the better worker in many of those cases. I had to earn everything myself. I do agree that equal work should be equal pay (considering education, seniority and job performance of course).

Men and women are both objectified today. Like I said, men have higher sex drives, so it's no surprise that they would be more likely to appeal to physical attributes, but men are programmed that way in their DNA, so it's not completely their fault. Evolutionarily, as men, our job has been to spread our seed and reproduce at all costs. It's part of the very essence of our being, so when a beautiful woman walks by with her breasts bulging out and wearing extremely tight pants, it is extremely difficult to not look. It's not because we're pigs, it's because reproducing has been our main purpose for millions of years and the way women dress today (as opposed to just 20 years ago) makes it very difficult on us. Women don't have to dress like that, and many do it for the sole purpose of manipulating men. Obviously this isn't always the case, but to think it's all the man's fault is ridiculous. Women aren't forced to be models or porn starts. That is completely their choice, and I respect their choice to do that or not do that.

The point is every situation is different. You can't just look at things in broad generalizations and blanket statements. Men and women are both very different hormonally so you will never have complete equality. Men have strengths, women have strengths, but today any sex can succeed and the favoritism goes both ways.

I think we need to start talking about the real elephant in the room. TALL privilege. This world is designed for people over 5'9. As a 5'1 individual I find that I am constantly at a disadvantage. I have to use cushions to drive a car, I can't reach top shelves at stores without jumping or asking assistance, even in my own home I can't reach the top cabinets in my kitchen without a stool. I can't sit at bar stools or even eat at the bar without making a mess. I can't sit in booths because they sink too low. At ball games and concerts I can't see when people stand up in the row in front of me. Everything I ever do is inconvenient, and tall people just don't take short people seriously. They are bullied, less favored for job promotions, and less likely to succeed in certain jobs due to favoritism. Look up the stats. It's really unfair and shows that tall people are born with a certain advantage over short people, which makes their lives much easier, and until tall people admit they are privileged, they are part of the problem, and promoting violence against short people. Terms like "shrimp, midget, dwarf, hobbit, etc" are used to promote this violence against short people. It's a tall person's world and short folks have been on the receiving end of ridicule and violence for centuries.

Yeah, it's a parody, but it's true for the most part. Maybe next we discuss RELIGIOUS privilege, which is actually real and leads to favoritism, bullying, and violence toward non believers, no matter what their sex or race is.

Sorry I just can't stand when people use blanket statements like "white privilege" or "male privilege". Everybody's lives are different. Sometimes discrimination happens. Sometimes white people or males earn everything legitimately without "help" from some imaginary concept like that. To suggest every single white or male has some privilege or advantage over others today is nonsense. Some in certain areas (ie religious dominated areas) might, but great strides have been made over the years to make things as equal as possible. White people and males get discriminated against just like anybody else.

a reply to: Barcs

Awesome post and soo true!