Three Richard Spencer Supporters Arrested on Charges of Shooting at UF Protesters

a reply to: Fools

Please, tell me more about what you think I'd do rather than give me the opportunity to do it.

Don't pin your lazy debate skills (rather, the lack of) on me and what you've made up on my behalf.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Fools

Please, tell me more about what you think I'd do rather than give me the opportunity to do it.

Don't pin your lazy debate skills (rather, the lack of) on me and what you've made up on my behalf.

You seem defensive. If I have tools, I use them. What do you do?

PS. I am not sure if you are a socialist or not. Have no idea. I am trying to allude to the fact that Spencer is, and if people trust someone like him, all they will get is more of the same and probably a civil war to boot. He should be ignored. Whether someone thinks he is right or left or a duck bill platypus, he should be ignored.

a reply to: Kali74

Idiots with guns.

All any of us can do is cross our fingers and hope that loogins like this eventually win themselves some Darwin Awards... which is pretty much a given when it comes to those who fall on the wrong side of the bell curve anyways.

a reply to: Fools

If you think I seem defensive then I can only presume you're overly sensitive to things. You're trying to pin your inability or unwillingness to discuss something on a notion that you've concocted entirely in your head about what you think I'll do.

I think that says a wee bit more about you than it does about me.

a reply to: Shamrock6

I don't think I have been unwilling to discuss anything. I guess this is because you say so? Also, I think you are going a bit overboard when you say this was concocted in my head. I have provided evidence, I stated you would ignore or cherry pick the evidence, you did, so here we are. Now I am supposedly unwilling to have a conversation.

In your world are all streets one way?

a reply to: Shamrock6

He's got a thing for telling people how they think, what they want, what the'd do, etc. He goes into his little straw man factory and makes himself a straw man and then pins it to you and calls it reasoned debate.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Kali74

Yea, but what did the protesters do to provoke them into shooting? We all know the ultra-right would never do anything violent on their own.

 Thursday after Spencer had ended his speech. They had just come from the speech and were recorded on video giving interviews to media outlets, defending Spencer's appearance.

"One of the passengers began yelling Hail Hitler and other chants" at the people at the bus stop, according to arrest reports released by the Gainesville Police Department. "An argument ensued," and one of the people at the bus stop, whose name was redacted, "used a baton to hit the rear window of [the] vehicle."

Tyler Eugene Tenbrink, 28, of Richmond, Texas, got out of the Jeep and pulled out a gun, police said.

sounds like they were taking victory laps provoking the protesters heading home...

Is DB for "diddle bug?"

a reply to: Fools

I guess this is because you say so?

You mean like this:

They are not the socialism that you yearn. If that were so, then they would be enough to satisfy. But strangely they don't - you always need more. And even when you have all you have asked for it will not be enough.

and this:

You are not all for someone who has balls and speaks frankly. You are all for someone who follows socialist/globablist agenda and apologizes for it profusely if they aren't.

and this:

It really doesn't matter how much information is available for anyone to prove that to you anyway. You would not read it, and even if you did, you would cherry pick half sentences and micro phrases to hide from yourself the reality of the situation.

?

a reply to: theantediluvian

And apparently for going into other threads that members are participating in and taking potshots at them there, too.

It's adorable, really.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Odd.

I can't see how anybody could construe that last one as being unwilling to engage in further debate or discussion.

Certainly not when you look at subsequent behavior, either.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Shamrock6

He's got a thing for telling people how they think, what they want, what the'd do, etc. He goes into his little straw man factory and makes himself a straw man and then pins it to you and calls it reasoned debate.

Especially if I disagree with you!

I do however find myself to a very perceptive human being and have always managed to filter BS out better than most people I know.

Dear theantediluvian,

Would it be wrong of me to assume that every post you have made has pretty much been at least pro-democrat party? I don't think it would be because they pretty much are. You are either praising DNC affiliates or rebuking RNC affiliates and your heart holds a special hatred for the current POTUS. It is obvious in your words, it is not my fault you write the words you write and I read them and then I comprehend them as I do. They are always your words. Your research and your summary of conclusion. I read them and I say to myself, "now here is a guy that is a real team player, a believer, a guy (assuming you are a guy) that probably shed tears when Obama became president and felt fortune was finally on his side. Why do I think that? Because of the things you write.

It is actually quite normal for people to form opinions and biases based on the things other people write or say or even support. I am not sure why you don't seem to understand that.

a reply to: Kali74

Thanks for being 'non-partisan' in your publishing. You set a good example.

Me - not so much. AntiFa protesters, while still reckless young men in large part, don't carry firearms.

a reply to: Kali74

I think it's important to remember that while I certainly don't condone the ideology of supremacy nor the punch a nazi tactic, that it is a small handful of people on both sides that will engage in violence and an even smaller number eager and willing to kill.

I hope that soon, we can stop the vitriol that fuels these lunatics and return to civil discourse before we end up in a another civil war.

I'll go along with that.

This murderous stupidity, some will call it something more benign, I'm sure, but it is what it is, will not stop 'til someone is killed and the one doing so is put on death row--then executed. Hopefully, I'm wrong and peaceful coexistence will break out all over the place...but I'm a pessimist.

a reply to: seagull

Hopefully, I'm wrong and peaceful coexistence will break out all over the place...

You know... I think you should seriously consider making stand-up comedy your fulltime profession, you're so dang good at it !

Laughed until I cried, I did.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Unfortunately, when one comes at it from the extreme of whatever side...you tend to get, if you're lucky, as much wrong as you do right.

Murderous fools, supporting an bigoted idiot. Not too surprising, really.

a reply to: CranialSponge

I'm here all week!!

You did catch the sarcasm implicit in that comment?? If not, hey, laughter is good for the soul.

a reply to: Fools

So, thoughts on the shooting or anything else in the OP?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Shamrock6

Marx got a lot of things right from his perspective in 1848, mostly about the application of rational thought to economic systems.

Sadly, he also got a long of things wrong, because, well humans are xenophobic primates.

Communism is an idealistic system, just as the pure free market is.

I know you know this ...

Nicely Said -- absolute vs relative

originally posted by: Fools

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Fools

National Socialism is not Socialism.

Nah uh they both have the same word!

Yeah, that is where I was going. It's a sore argument. It really doesn't matter how much information is available for anyone to prove that to you anyway. You would not read it, and even if you did, you would cherry pick half sentences and micro phrases to hide from yourself the reality of the situation.

And the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a shining example of both a republic and a democracy, right?