Trump - in effort to discredit investigations - claims FBI colluded with Russia against him

Donald Trump suggests Russia, FBI and Democrats colluded to pay for dossier on his Kremlin links - but provides no evidence

Mr Trump’s outlandish claim comes after two bosses of Fusion GPS, the firm that helped produce the dossier, refused to answer questions on Wednesday in a private meeting with the House Intelligence Agency.

Trump, in classic, predictable fashion tries to discredit people/agencies that are likely to say something bad about him before they do it.

I'm starting to figure out that Trump is a very easy read, bad poker face sort of thing. If somebody has something bad to say about him, and he knows it, he'll try and discredit them beforehand.

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Mueller must really be getting close to something! I smell Trumpian desperation! LOL

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remind ATS again what evidence the " investigation " into president trump has produced ?

and as you stated - the idiots`at fusionGPS have lost thier tongues

so - what was your point again ????

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only 7 years` and 3 months to go - and muelller will be ready to impeach

originally posted by: links234
Donald Trump suggests Russia, FBI and Democrats colluded to pay for dossier on his Kremlin links - but provides no evidence

Mr Trump’s outlandish claim comes after two bosses of Fusion GPS, the firm that helped produce the dossier, refused to answer questions on Wednesday in a private meeting with the House Intelligence Agency.

Trump, in classic, predictable fashion tries to discredit people/agencies that are likely to say something bad about him before they do it.

I'm starting to figure out that Trump is a very easy read, bad poker face sort of thing. If somebody has something bad to say about him, and he knows it, he'll try and discredit them beforehand.

The whole Russia thing is Fake News.

The media as a unit came up empty.

The only deal that was made was to sell our Uranium.

Hillary sold our material to Russia for peanuts.

Then she points at Trump and screams "Trump colluded w/ Russia".

And all the kool aid drinkers are screaming "Impeach Trump".

It's great fun...

This is just another variation on the Trump-Russia conspiracy.

And just because it's anti-Trump, doesn't mean it's not a conspiracy.

Look, the left wing journalist Chris Hedges who wrote for the New York Times, even says this Trump-Russia crap is just that---Crap.

Here's a quote:

I have no doubt that the Russians invested time, energy and money into attempting to influence events in the United States in ways that would serve their interests, in the same way that we have done and do in Russia and all sorts of other countries throughout the world. So I’m not saying there was no influence, or an attempt to influence events. But the whole idea that the Russians swung the election to Trump is absurd. It’s really premised on the unproven claim that Russia gave the Podesta emails to WikiLeaks, and the release of these emails turned tens, or hundreds of thousands, of Clinton supporters towards Trump. This doesn’t make any sense. Either that, or, according to the director of national intelligence, RT America, where I have a show, got everyone to vote for the Green Party.

This obsession with Russia is a tactic used by the ruling elite, and in particular the Democratic Party, to avoid facing a very unpleasant reality: that their unpopularity is the outcome of their policies of deindustrialization and the assault against working men and women and poor people of color. It is the result of disastrous trade agreements like NAFTA that abolished good-paying union jobs and shipped them to places like Mexico, where workers without benefits are paid $3.00 an hour. It is the result of the explosion of a system of mass incarceration, begun by Bill Clinton with the 1994 omnibus crime bill, and the tripling and quadrupling of prison sentences. It is the result of the slashing of basic government services, including, of course, welfare, that Clinton gutted; deregulation, a decaying infrastructure, including public schools, and the de facto tax boycott by corporations. It is the result of the transformation of the country into an oligarchy. The nativist revolt on the right, and the aborted insurgency within the Democratic Party, makes sense when you see what they have done to the country.

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He suggested that he was "wire tapped" and he had a legitimate point .just sayin

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It's a question, actually, not a claim nor a suggestion.

Workers of firm involved with the discredited and Fake Dossier take the 5th. Who paid for it, Russia, the FBI or the Dems (or all)?

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Makes sense

Let's remember that former MI6 agent Christopher Steele works for ORBIS and NOT Fusion GPS.

The RNC and DNC neither paid Fusion GPS for the dossier. Wealthy DONORS did on each side...initially. They paid FusionGPS, which in turn paid Steele's Orbis firm.

Then, Orbis (Steele's firm) continued on its own dime after funding from FusionGPS stopped.

doesnt sound to far fetched, since the story about russian obama admin nuclear stuff....

hmmmmm

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
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He suggested that he was "wire tapped" and he had a legitimate point .just sayin

No. It wasn't legitimate.

If I walk into YOUR house because YOU are under surveillance, it does not mean I was the "target" of the surveillance.

Trump wasn't the TARGET.

Therefore, his "claims" are 100% unfounded and false.

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Of course. Trump will never, ever make the claim that he's wrong about anything. He never has and never will. Everyone should realize that by now. Even when he's paying out to settle court cases, or bankrupting a business or telling lies to the media only to be called on them later. It's not him that's the problem. It's everyone else and even the world that must be wrong, but not him.

That won't change. It's his pathology as an extreme narcissist. He can't change that or who he thinks he is would collapse. Even when asked about asking for forgiveness as a christian he admitted he had no reason to do so his entire life. Name one other self identified christian you've ever heard say that. He believes his entire life that he's made every right choice and every action has been perfect.

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Trump drops lies like turds into a litter box to distract from the LAST lie/scandal.

I already know who paid for the dossier - at first, it was Republicans opposed to Trump in the primaries. Then, after Trump was selected, it was Democrats opposed to Trump. After this, Steele was going to continue working for the FBI, but this fell through.

No, Russia did not pay for the dossier. No, it was not the RNC or the DNC but independently wealthy Republicans and Democrats. No, the FBI did not pay Steele, although the intelligence community has been working on independently verifying the information in the report (which it does not take at face value).

It is possible that Steele either made up the report completely, or was fed disinformation from his Russian informants.

Saying Democrats are really the ones colluding with Russia is a manipulative tactic being used by Trump meant to take the focus off him. This is similar to the manipulative tactic used by a conservative documentary maker who is trying to get people to believe that Democrats are KKK members and more racist than Republicans.

Pick a ridiculous claim, and then back it up with botched facts (or none at all) peppered with misinformation and conveniently leave out relevant information that would make the claim sink.

The sad part is, a lot of people take this seriously.

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I look forward to all the evidence he provides in the coming future.

i would think a reach like this, accusing the FBI of collusion, just means trump thinks they're about to blow his ass out of the water.

i'm getting my popcorn ready

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Why is congress not looking into the Obama/Hillary coverup in the uranium 1 Russian bribery deal? that is the real Russia story.

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Senate Judiciary is looking into it.

I mean, maybe something will come of it. The deal was approved at the same time the FBI investigation started. So...whoever signed off on the deal (multiple agencies within the US gov) probably didn't know that any investigation was happening.

Making sense of Russia, uranium and Hillary Clinton

Former Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), who chaired the House Intelligence Committee during the time the FBI probe was being conducted, told the Hill that he had never been told anything about the Russian nuclear corruption case, even though many fellow lawmakers had serious concerns about the Obama administration's approval of the Uranium One deal.

originally posted by: windword
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Mueller must really be getting close to something! I smell Trumpian desperation! LOL

Of course. Perhaps in 25 years or so, with billions to fund 2 face (Mueller) and his fools errand, they will be even CLOSER to something. No one knows what that something is yet. (get real) The real collusion is the FBI covering for Obama/Hillary/Russia. Fact. So far it's the only one. #graspingatstraws