Colin Kaepernick files collusion grievance against NFL owners

a reply to: DrStevenBrule

He was about to be on the ravens until his girlfriend posted a picture insulting ray Lewis being an uncle Tom. I don't feel bad for him

Of course it's collusion. I have said as much all along. That's how the owners work. Good luck proving it though.

originally posted by: intrepid
Of course it's collusion. I have said as much all along. That's how the owners work. Good luck proving it though.

Collusion for what?

They're mostly all letting the players carry on what he started.

If what he did was such a big problem that they blackballed him for it, then you would expect them to have kept they players from kneeling. There is the big problem with proving that he's been blacklisted.

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

He was about to be on the ravens until his girlfriend posted a picture insulting ray Lewis being an uncle Tom. I don't feel bad for him

Yep. Me either.

Gives him another thing to feel like a victim about instead of Colon taking responsibility for his actions.

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
No collusion, just a business decision... although, Green Bay may call

No.

Just... please. No. I'll take a crappy season. Just no.

originally posted by: ketsuko
There is the big problem with proving that he's been blacklisted.

Exactly my point. As to the protest the owners haven't shut it down because of the reason behind it. Kaep's reason for starting it were different though. It was an attention seeker but it evolved.

Was it collusion when no team signed Tebow? All he ever did was win. But the consensus was no one wanted to put up with the media circus that followed Tebow around. Kaepernick would be a huge distraction and in a team sport where everything has to fire on all cyiinders, it's probably more critical in football than anywhere else. Especially at that position.

No on can say definitively that he's better than someone who's already on a roster and I completely believe if any owner thought he'd take them closer to the playoffs than anyone they currently have, he'd be on a team. The court can't make a team take him, but they can award monetary damages. And that could get really ugly.

Anyone adding a player asks one question - does this make our team better?

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: ketsuko
There is the big problem with proving that he's been blacklisted.

Exactly my point. As to the protest the owners haven't shut it down because of the reason behind it. Kaep's reason for starting it were different though. It was an attention seeker but it evolved.

So .... wait ...

I thought Kaep's reason for starting the protest was the same reason the players had for keeping it going - supposedly police brutality (or so they keep telling us over and over) even though most people see them protesting the flag and country which is why they're now hemorrhaging fan base. Fans see them spitting on the country whatever *they* think they're doing.

Now you're contending this is two different protests?

And if what you're contending is true, all Kaep wanted was to be a huge attention whore and he actually never cared at all! Then no wonder none of teams want him. He's locker room poison. Not only is he going to disrupt your team, but look at how much he's disrupted the entire business!

And he has no right at all to demand a spot on any team. He's NOT a team player.

originally posted by: yeahright
Was it collusion when no team signed Tebow? All he ever did was win. But the consensus was no one wanted to put up with the media circus that followed Tebow around. Kaepernick would be a huge distraction and in a team sport where everything has to fire on all cyiinders, it's probably more critical in football than anywhere else. Especially at that position.

No on can say definitively that he's better than someone who's already on a roster and I completely believe if any owner thought he'd take them closer to the playoffs than anyone they currently have, he'd be on a team. The court can't make a team take him, but they can award monetary damages. And that could get really ugly.

Anyone adding a player asks one question - does this make our team better?

Now if the Packers reached out to Tebow...

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
No collusion, just a business decision... although, Green Bay may call

No.

Just... please. No. I'll take a crappy season. Just no.

Lol, I don’t think you have anything to worry about. As a Cowboys (and Romo) fan, think you’re pretty safe on Romo too...though he would give you a much better shot than Kaepernick. And his interceptions (Romo’s) would bring back fond memories of Favre

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

Now if the Packers reached out to Tebow...

Jeff George is only 49.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: ketsuko
There is the big problem with proving that he's been blacklisted.

Exactly my point. As to the protest the owners haven't shut it down because of the reason behind it. Kaep's reason for starting it were different though. It was an attention seeker but it evolved.

So .... wait ...

I thought Kaep's reason for starting the protest was the same reason the players had for keeping it going - supposedly police brutality (or so they keep telling us over and over) even though most people see them protesting the flag and country which is why they're now hemorrhaging fan base. Fans see them spitting on the country whatever *they* think they're doing.

Now you're contending this is two different protests?

No. Same protest, different reasons. Kaep said is was inequality for black people, and the players are protesting just that, but I contend that Kaep started it to garner attention. Hell this didn't start until after he was benched. Just because the initial impetus was crap(IMO) doesn't make the protest invalid. Things evolve. I think Viagra was started as a blood pressure med but found that it was a wood producer.

a reply to: intrepid

What I said still stands. He has no business on any team if his idea of protesting being benched is to do what he did.

It doesn't matter what you think the protest he started, the end result is that it's tearing the league apart, and he did it for the most selfish of reasons.

He's like those girls who got their parents to get in the coach's ear because they were riding the bench and didn't think they should be. It always damaged the team in the end and made everything worse.

a reply to: ketsuko

You're preaching to the choir. I wanted to keep Alex Smith.

a reply to: seasonal

Dunno man...when i see who is starting in the league right now, and I look at Kaepernick....its hard to not think he has a case.

Proving it will be nearly impossible. But if he does...Tebow should jump on the coat tails.

As a Bears fan I find it impossible to believe that Tebow wouldn't be better than any of the turds they trot out each season.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan


As a Bears fan I find it impossible to believe that Tebow wouldn't be better than any of the turds they trot out each season.

What about Cleveland? 28 QB's in 18 years? If they ain't giving him a shot maybe he has a point.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I would think there is a universal disdain for the circus that would follow hiring this guy. No one wants to have the problems that are attached after he started his kneeling. This is a HUGE distraction that not one billionaire would be looking forward to.

So it very well could be a unorganized boycott of Colin's activism on the owners dime.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan


As a Bears fan I find it impossible to believe that Tebow wouldn't be better than any of the turds they trot out each season.

What about Cleveland? 28 QB's in 18 years? If they ain't giving him a shot maybe he has a point.

ain't that the truth. The Cleveland CLowns need jesus.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I would think there is a universal disdain for the circus that would follow hiring this guy. No one wants to have the problems that are attached after he started his kneeling. This is a HUGE distraction that not one billionaire would be looking forward to.

So it very well could be a unorganized boycott of Colin's activism on the owners dime.

Prior to this season I might agree with you. But this season the owners went all in and supported the protest, or at least tolerated it.

Im not a big fan of Kaepernick. But he's so much better than just about every single backup, plus half dozen starters.

Maybe the Dolphins should sign him. Can't get any worse on the drama front for them, right? LOL. And no one on this planet is worse than Cutler.