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So she has not exactly been completely cleared yet.
Part of me thinks her cryptic responses on filing a law suit against the department / city is contingent upon her getting an outcome she wants and if it doesnt happen then she will most likely sue as a result.
The criminal investigation is still ongoing and the PA stated several times they are looking at all parties involved and not just law enforcement.
So while this is a good start there is still more that needs to be done. I believe the 2 officers have 60 days to appeal the decision and I believe it has already occurred for Det. Payne.
originally posted by: windword
Thanks for dropping by!
originally posted by: windword
I knew you were going to say that as I was typing it up! LOL
originally posted by: windword
It's called leverage! Hey, at least you don't think that she's looking to win the lawsuit lottery, or something!
originally posted by: windword
I'm sure that they're looking at all parties involved for context, but I don't believe that Nurse Wubbles is under "criminal investigation". She still has her job. The Salt Lake PD has made their decisions and made their concession to the hospital and Nurse Wubbles, and assured the community the PD has updated their policy so that this kind of thing won't happen again. Meanwhile, the hospital enacted policy that now has the PD going to the executive offices with their requests, and not the ER or hospital working area, where the nurses are!
originally posted by: windword
The union and the officers' legal/union representative would derelict in their duties if they didn't do everything in their power to protect their "clients".
originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
www.scribd.com... here is the termination letter, i guess payne withheld information from his CO and that played a part in his termination ,the over all letter comes off as scathing ,his attorny plans to appeal the process so we will have to wait until that part is done to finally put this one to bed
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
www.scribd.com... here is the termination letter, i guess payne withheld information from his CO and that played a part in his termination ,the over all letter comes off as scathing ,his attorny plans to appeal the process so we will have to wait until that part is done to finally put this one to bed
After reading that memo it is now clear just how badly Det. Payne screwed that up. Failing to disclose critical information to the Lt., resulting in an unneeded escalation, is scary to say the least. Absent other information I dont see his termination being overturned with the exception of the Mayor and CPRB violating their own policies on releasing video and IA reports before the conclusion of the IA investigation / criminal investigation / civil rights investigation.
Based on the info the decision to terminate was completely justified.
With that said I still believe the Hospital and SLCPD have gone head to head in the past over the authority of law enforcement verse the medical authority of medical staff. I still think the Hospital acted in the way it did due to issues between them and the police prior to this incident.
The lawyer for Det. Payne stated the entire story has not been told and that Payne was looking forward to giving a complete context view at some point. If I had to guess it will include issues the PD has had with the Hospital.
Thanks for posting the report.
With that said I now need to swallow my pride and apologize to the members I sparred with in the original thread. This is why I keep pushing for the investigations to complete before rendering an opinion. It also demonstrates what i was talking about with regards to the nurse and her telling only her side of the story. She in fact left out information in her version and also was not privy to the entire conversations between members of law enforcement.
My sincerest apologies to those members.