Mike Pence’s NFL Walkout Was a Cheap, Transparent Stunt (at a cost to the taxpayer)

originally posted by: SecretsoftheBlueApples
He flew on a C-20 Gulfstream on his own dime.
a reply to: Southern Guardian

I don't believe you. Do you have a citation for this.

Pence was in Vegas, as VP, honoring the victims of the shootings. Then, he went to Indianapolis to attend Sunday’s Colts football game and stage an executive "protest" and walked out of the game in faux outrage, hopped back on his jet to attended a 6:30 meeting in California.

All on his dime? I don't think so!

a reply to: SecretsoftheBlueApples

Is he also paying the Secret Service staff from his personal money? I think not. In fact, its well known that the Secret Service are having trouble retaining protective detail staff, because of the enormous amount of overtime requirements that this President forces on the Secret Service members attached to his protection, on these very holidays. The Secret Service are actually having a devil of a time paying their staff as a result of this nonsense, and we are not even a year in yet.

Is he also paying the logistical cost of moving equipment and personnel as required for his protection, from any one of the airbases normally used to store these things? Is he paying for the loft of the planes which move that equipment, the cost of the petrol which drives that equipment from the airport they land at, to the site he is occupying? Is he, in fact, doing anything more than providing a token gesture toward the cost of his travel, which in the grand scheme of things will STILL wind up being more expensive over like periods, than that of his predecessor, precisely because of the frequency of his travels?

a reply to: Southern Guardian


Falling back on the money talking point 'points' out how effective Pence's action was. An official endorsement of walking out, ignoring, shutting off Pro-Football.


Momentum gained and there's nothing the left can do to stop it.......

Why was pence in Vegas?
Oh yeah, to make a political statement.

Then in Indianapolis?
Oh yeah, to make a political statement.

But why California?
Lemme guess, to make a political statement at a fundraiser for rich people.

But let's just be pissed about the Indy stop..

Pence has the right to make his stand just like the NFL players do.

He flies on our dime, that how it works.

Seems like he was extremely successful in unsettling the left as badly as the NFL protest has upset the right.

Everyone has the right to be protest!
Ain't America great?

a reply to: Lab4Us


The President and the VP are always the President and the VP until there is a peaceful transfer of power. There is never a time when the President and the VP are not the President and the VP. Everything they do and say while in office is representative of the Government. There is no "off time" or "time out" for the President and the VP.

a reply to: Martin75

Pence has the right to make his stand just like the NFL players do.

No he didn't. He was ordered to leave by his boss, The President of the Untied States, should any player kneel during the National Anthem.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Martin75

Pence has the right to make his stand just like the NFL players do.

No he didn't. He was ordered to leave by his boss, The President of the Untied States, should any player kneel during the National Anthem.

And you know that because?
Pretty sure Pence & Trump see eye to eye. Prove differently!

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Why was pence in Vegas?
Oh yeah, to make a political statement.

Then in Indianapolis?
Oh yeah, to make a political statement.

He was doing his duty as VP and comforting the people of Las Vegas, after a terrible tragedy

But why California?
Lemme guess, to make a political statement at a fundraiser for rich people.

Nope. Campaigning and fundraising for House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy. All within his purview as VP.

But let's just be pissed about the Indy stop..

The Indy stop was an abuse of executive power, meant to intimate and create a chilling effect for ALL citizens exercising their constitutional rights to free speech and peaceful protest as redress the Government for grievances.

originally posted by: Martin75

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Martin75

Pence has the right to make his stand just like the NFL players do.

No he didn't. He was ordered to leave by his boss, The President of the Untied States, should any player kneel during the National Anthem.

And you know that because?
Pretty sure Pence & Trump see eye to eye. Prove differently!

I know this because Trump tweeted it!


Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
I asked @VP Pence to leave stadium if any players kneeled, disrespecting our country. I am proud of him and @SecondLady Karen.
11:16 AM - Oct 8, 2017

Wrong.

The players kneeling are the cheap, transparent, stunt.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Lab4Us


The President and the VP are always the President and the VP until there is a peaceful transfer of power. There is never a time when the President and the VP are not the President and the VP. Everything they do and say while in office is representative of the Government. There is no "off time" or "time out" for the President and the VP.

Says you.

originally posted by: carewemust
V.P. Pence's trip was well worth the money. It got the publicity, and delivered results.

After Dallas Cowboy owner Jerry Jones got wind of what V.P. Pence did, he told his selfish millionaire players that, going forward, either they stand up for the Anthem, or not play in the game.

Full Story: www.foxnews.com...

If this stunt was so damn effective, maybe you could tell us how many fans who paid for their own tickets and transportation to the game followed Mike Pence out of the stadium in protest.

And........if Jerry Jones told his players what you said he did, he's an even bigger idiot than Donald Trump!

Didn't the Cowboys lose last night? Yeah, I thought so.

The real power lies with the players, not the owners. They can stand up, they can play and they can lose like hell. What has Jerry Jones gained in the process?

This display of fake outrage by Trump & Pence is pathetic and inexcusable, not to mention hypocritical.

I'm sure that Trump didn't spend all that time and effort dodging the draft during the Vietnam War just to have football players disrespect the national anthem by kneeling in protest but how the hell does anyone maintain an anti-kneeling policy while being pro-pussy grabbing?

NFL Players in cheap stunt - the radical left reacts to criticism with 1st amendment cries... it's free speech!
Pence decides to leave a stadium in disgust - the radical left... "he stole our money!!!!"

a reply to: Flatfish

This display of fake outrage by Trump & Pence is pathetic and inexcusable, not to mention hypocritical.

I'm sure that Trump didn't spend all that time and effort dodging the draft during the Vietnam War just to have football players disrespect the national anthem by kneeling in protest but how the hell does anyone maintain an anti-kneeling policy while being pro-pussy grabbing?

Or attack POW veteran John McCain for "getting caught", Gold Star Families for being Muslim, expel transgender troop, tell Americans the FBI and the Intel Community are liars, the voting system is rigged, the electoral college is a disaster......these are examples of respect of the flag and our troops?

a reply to: UKTruth

Pence decides to leave

Pence didn't "decide " anything. His boss ordered him to go there and then walk out.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

I already forgot about it. I very much don't care and the publicity stunt worked really well.

Conservatives love it

Liberals are crying with outrage

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

Pence decides to leave

Pence didn't "decide " anything. His boss ordered him to go there and then walk out.

Yeah, yeah.
And even if they planned it - what's the problem? It's a clear protest against the players' actions. Is it only the left that are allowed to protest??

a reply to: windword

The electoral college isn't rigged unless you just don't understand how it works or why its important.

And how is the voting system rigged and I assume it would be in the democrats favor of it was rigged.

And John McCain is a great example why we need term limits.

Politicians are so full of themselves. They carry the media weight whatever they do. Like OP said, players been kneeling for a while, but let a politician demonstrate against a demonstration, and its the News. One man, some demonstration. What a man too. He's a warmonger, whats he care about 'police brutality'? Isn't he trying to fill the prisons more?