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originally posted by: Spider879
originally posted by: mikell
I guess Liberal's really love us Trump supporters so much they don't want to risk us getting hurt. In Chicago 50-60 people a month get killed and they say nothing. Yup They really do love us and I would bet they are closet trump fans.
As I predicted some one was bound to pull Chicago out deh ass..u guys never disappoint, lemme guess Blk on Blk crime next?? Wht on wht crime exist not.??
originally posted by: alldaylong
In the last 500 YEARS there have been THREE mass shootings in The U.K.
Now tell me again that Gun Control doesn't work.
originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: gernblan
Perhaps/ perhaps not but gun should enter into the equation, crazy ppl shouldn't have guns, and you can't have one city or state selling weapons of small destruction, while the next town have restrictions, defeats the purpose.
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth
The UK is not the US.
Correct.
The U.K. has gun control.
Mexico’s gun laws are similar to those in countries like the United Kingdom that do not tolerate possession of certain lethal firearms. This is in stark contrast to the laws of the United States, whose constitution allows citizens to generally own and carry firearms on their person. Foreigners visiting Mexico must be particularly careful with this, as Mexican laws on importation and possession of firearms and/or ammunition are strictly enforced at border crossings and on spot-checks, for example, at vehicle checkpoints on major highway routes through the country. The Mexican constitution allows for legal possession of one small-caliber firearm with several important caveats: the owner must be a Mexican citizen, or a foreigner with legal residency status; the firearm must be of small caliber as specifically cited by the regulations; it must be registered with the army and; critically, the firearm is not to be carried in the street. The purpose of the law is to provide for self-defense within the confine of one’s own home.
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: UKTruth
I wouldn't argue much with that..I still think the free flow of weapons are part of the equation, this guy wouldn't of caused over 600 casualties with a knife per se.
As I said though..it's far too late anyway, not that I would argue for a gun grab.
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth
The UK is not the US.
Correct.
The U.K. has gun control.
Another stupid argument.
Gun control does not stop murder or even mass murder. We know that in the UK for certain.
When you get beyond Pierce Morgan logic, have another go.
With your logic, I could just as easily say that Mexico DOES have strict gun laws...
Mexico’s gun laws are similar to those in countries like the United Kingdom that do not tolerate possession of certain lethal firearms. This is in stark contrast to the laws of the United States, whose constitution allows citizens to generally own and carry firearms on their person. Foreigners visiting Mexico must be particularly careful with this, as Mexican laws on importation and possession of firearms and/or ammunition are strictly enforced at border crossings and on spot-checks, for example, at vehicle checkpoints on major highway routes through the country. The Mexican constitution allows for legal possession of one small-caliber firearm with several important caveats: the owner must be a Mexican citizen, or a foreigner with legal residency status; the firearm must be of small caliber as specifically cited by the regulations; it must be registered with the army and; critically, the firearm is not to be carried in the street. The purpose of the law is to provide for self-defense within the confine of one’s own home.
..yet Mexico's homicide rate is 5 times higher than the US. So by your logic, strict gun laws increase the murder rate.
Of course, that would be stupid, like your argument. In reality, each country faces different issues, that are far more to do with society than gun laws or ownership.
originally posted by: gernblan
The White House is absolutely right, this is not the time for a gun control debate. This is the time for a mental health debate.
originally posted by: racerzeke
As mentioned earlier mentioning cities like Chicago or states like California's strict gun laws and comparing gun crimes within those boundaries isn't really fair because of how easy it is to buy guns in a majority of America and transport those across state lines. You can go to Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, etc. and literally buy an armory from your local Walmart or even scarier out of some guys trunk (with literally no BG checks, etc.). Why is it so scary to implement some restrictions when buying guns or ammunition? I don't understand the big fear of the oogie boogie man. This guy bought 30+ rifles in less than a year... would you agree that's a bit much? On top of that all of these modifications that technically not technically make them illegal. That should have raised some red flags some where you would think. Similar to depositing/transferring money, after a certain amount it gets flagged. I don't think the gun "control" debate should either be full fledged ownership or the gub'ment coming and knocking on your door to take your guns away. There should be some restrictions to make it more difficult for these people who commit mass shootings... will they stop because "a criminal will break the law anyway...," no probably not but they may make these shootings less frequent and less deadly. Maybe this guy could have only bought 10 guns within the year, or x number of ammunition. In the end it might have made the difference between 50+ killed and only 10... At this point we have to take the bad over worse with guns in this country. I really don't understand arguing AGAINST some sort of guns rules & regulations just like when you get a drivers license and drive your car.