Nikola Tesla - Free Energy

a reply to: Phage

While Tesla thought he could transfer electrical energy through the ground, his system also required a receiver. A receiver which would have been "metered." It's just part of the myth that his system would have provided "free energy."

Why would Tesla think he could transfer electricity through the ground? The idea is laughable to even an apprentice Electrical Engineer. He thought he could transfer it wireless through the air, through emitting and receiving towers
and supposedly JP Morgan backed out of funding the construction because he thought the method couldn't be metered.

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: Hyperboles

Id be willing to bet it's doable...but where's the money and ability to control the serfs in that?

By this logic, solar panels, wind turbines, etc. would not be available on the public market. Yet they are, so...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ttobban

Switch the collector to an emitter, re-wire some transistor circuitry, and the Tesla coil becomes what we know of now as HAARP.

No. A Tesla coil is not a phased array radio transmitter. Not even close.
I don't understand why people think HAARP had anything to do with Tesla. He didn't even believe that the ionosphere exists.

"Tesla's design used a concept of a charged conductive upper layer in the atmosphere,[3] a theory dating back to an 1872 idea for a proposed wireless power system by Mahlon Loomis.[4] Tesla not only believed that he could use this layer as his return path in his electrical conduction system, but that the power flowing through it would make it glow, providing night time lighting for cities and shipping lanes."

en.wikipedia.org...

What I understand is that these standing waves would have been like ripples travelling from one side of the Earth to another point directly opposite.

There is another theory that when Tesla did his experiment at Wardenclyffe tower, he forgot to factor in the Earth's magnetic field and the energy was refocused onto a location in Siberia. Causing the Tunguska Event.

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: Phage

While Tesla thought he could transfer electrical energy through the ground, his system also required a receiver. A receiver which would have been "metered." It's just part of the myth that his system would have provided "free energy."

Why would Tesla think he could transfer electricity through the ground? The idea is laughable to even an apprentice Electrical Engineer. He thought he could transfer it wireless through the air, through emitting and receiving towers
and supposedly JP Morgan backed out of funding the construction because he thought the method couldn't be metered.

Exactly . The theory was to beam energy into the "orbit" , bounce the energy back an forth ,and the Earth's own magnetic field would act as an alternator magnifying the energy. The resulting energy could then be "brought down" by receivers for utilization.
Unfortunately this may have meant Tesla would have had to adopt Edison's direct current instead of his own alternating current
One thing about Tesla , he did think outside the box. Shame more folks cant.

a reply to: surfer_soul
No. Tesla thought that he could transmit electricity through the ground. Are you claiming that electricity can be transmitted through the air?

The same conclusions will be reached by transmitting and receiving circuits with wires buried underground. In each case the actions carefully investigated will be found to be due to earth currents.

www.tfcbooks.com...

supposedly JP Morgan backed out of funding the construction because he thought the method couldn't be metered.

Since Tesla's system required receivers, it could have been metered quite easily.

He was a very good electrical and mechanical engineer. But he never did quite understand electromagnetic radiation.

a reply to: Gothmog

The theory was to beam energy into the "orbit" , bounce the energy back an forth ,and the Earth's own magnetic field would act as an alternator magnifying the energy.

What form of energy?
What was it supposed to bounce off of? Tesla did not believe that the ionosphere exists and he didn't believe in electromagnetic radiation. So you're going to have to provide a bit more of an explanation of his theory.

Terrestrial phenomena which I have noted conclusively show that there is no Heaviside layer, or if it exists, it is of no effect.

The Hertz wave theory of wireless transmission may be kept up for a while, but I do not hesitate to say that in a short time it will be recognized as one of the most remarkable and inexplicable aberrations of the scientific mind which has ever been recorded in history.

www.tfcbooks.com...

One thing about Tesla , he did think outside the box.

Did you know he was also a fan of eugenics?

The only method compatible with our notions of civilization and the race is to prevent the breeding of the unfit by sterilization and the deliberate guidance of the mating instinct, Several European countries and a number of states of the American Union sterilize the criminal and the insane. This is not sufficient.

www.pbs.org...

originally posted by: GetHyped

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: Hyperboles

Id be willing to bet it's doable...but where's the money and ability to control the serfs in that?

By this logic, solar panels, wind turbines, etc. would not be available on the public market. Yet they are, so...

My local electric utility (with the blessing of my local government) ended its net metering program. Added to cutting back on the number of permits issued, that really put a damper on the PV market. So, I'm not sure that's a valid analogy.

More valid would be busting people who steal power from the grid by various means.

It's not clear from his writing that Tesla envisioned a receiver for each user or if he was thinking about just eliminating long distance transmission lines. It is clear however, that his system in no way precluded "metering" the use of electricity.

I often wonder if Telsa had been allowed to carry out his electrification of the atmosphere if we'd have no birds left

naw, surely he knew of the electric universe

now he came up with ac power.....in a motor...or powerlines ten thousand miles long......the reason ac power is transmitted further is due to the effect of ambient electrons pushing....due to inductance

a reply to: Hyperboles

the sun gives us free energy already.
we just need an effective way to harness it.

a reply to: odzeandennz

We can. But it costs money.

originally posted by: surfer_soul
Why would Tesla think he could transfer electricity through the ground? The idea is laughable to even an apprentice Electrical Engineer.

"Electricity" is indeed flowing through the ground. Update your memory banks, it´s real and it´s used every day. It´s even called "ground" or "earth" potential.

a reply to: GetHyped

solar panels and wind turbines are on the public market. there is a huge industry revolving around that.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: odzeandennz

We can. But it costs money.

touché.

a reply to: verschickter

Yes. Something is going on. Down under, the ground. But it ain't electricity.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Hyperboles

Wardenclyfe was a "proof of concept" project designed for communications.

While Tesla thought he could transfer electrical energy through the ground, his system also required a receiver. A receiver which would have been "metered." It's just part of the myth that his system would have provided "free energy."

Cant find any schematics for his whole system tho.

a reply to: Hyperboles

For Wydenclyfe in particular, not so much. But there are plenty which explain his odd notions.

a reply to: surfer_soul

Why would Tesla think he could transfer electricity through the ground? The idea is laughable to even an apprentice Electrical Engineer.

And this is why seasoned engineers will sometimes laugh at the apprentice engineers.

originally posted by: Cofactor
a reply to: surfer_soul

Why would Tesla think he could transfer electricity through the ground? The idea is laughable to even an apprentice Electrical Engineer.

And this is why seasoned engineers will sometimes laugh at the apprentice engineers.

In one of my electronics kits (MyKit series), there was a project on how you could build an intercom circuit using only a
live wire. The ground was used to complete the circuit.

a reply to: stormcell
So, the atmosphere conducts electricity?
Tesla didn't think so. Quite rightly.