Our Callous Congress Forgot To Renew CHIP - 9 Million Children Could Lose Healthcare.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

That's all true. Do you think that talking point won't be used in 2020 when the debt has increased 2 to 5 trillion?

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

When Democrats screw up, it's 100% the fault of Democrats. When Republicans screw up, it's "both sides are at fault". Like the OP mentioned, Republicans currently control approximated 82% of elected positions in this country, including all 3 branches of the federal government. In short, they are the government for the vast majority of Americans. If they won't take responsibility now, then why would you expect them to later?

There are no moderates anymore and we have ourselves to blame. There was a time when both parties would vote for a bill. Today no one is in control with votes. You have the dems who will by party vote no on everything and you have the reps with a split party, not wanting to come to a middle ground.

a reply to: MOMof3

That depends on who's in power after the 2018 midterm elections.

If Democrats retake control of Congress in 2018, then yeah the Republicans will harp about the deficit & a lot of other stuff. But if Republicans can stay in control of Congress after 2018, then nope.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

And that is why I don't think the democrats should take the Congress in 2018. The repubs will harp about the increasing debt again.
The democrats need to start winning counties again and work toward 2020.

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: carewemust

Won't this save taxpayers billions of dollars?

Money that can be used on whatever families need most...like food, clothes or even healthcare.

Or even better...tax breaks for those who don't need them!

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: carewemust

Won't this save taxpayers billions of dollars?

Money that can be used on whatever families need most...like food, clothes or even healthcare.

Or even better...tax breaks for those who don't need them!

Everyone needs tax breaks. Figure out how to cut spending.

Republicans only care about children before they're born.

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Republicans only care about children before they're born.

After they're born is where us Reptilians come into play.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: MOMof3

That depends on who's in power after the 2018 midterm elections.

If Democrats retake control of Congress in 2018, then yeah the Republicans will harp about the deficit & a lot of other stuff. But if Republicans can stay in control of Congress after 2018, then nope.

Republicans were a majority in Congress during 6 of Obama's 8 years, yet they still voted to increase the debt ceiling every time a vote was needed, didn't they? Republican concern over debt is all hogwash, IMO. But some of the more selfish members might use the "deficit excuse" to hurt the middle class, when tax-cuts are negotiated.

Thread-related UPDATED INFO:

Ten states project they will run out of CHIP funds before the end of 2017 according to a new brief released by the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF), based on responses from 42 states during the KFF’s annual Medicaid budget survey.

The ten states are: Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Idaho, Mississippi, Nevada, Oregon, Pennsylvania and Utah. Importantly, this is more the double the number of states projected to exhaust their carryover funds by MACPAC before the end of the year.

This is significant because some policymakers feel there is no need to rush to extend funding for CHIP because all states have some carryover funds.

Source: ccf.georgetown.edu...

Why would Congress even CONSIDER not keeping CHIP funded? Apparently, this lack of an extension was NOT an oversight on Congress's part.

a reply to: carewemust

Remember this thread of yours from a week ago?

President Trump is Hastening ObamaCare Demise - Wants a Better HealthCare System ASAP.

Has it occurred to you that they're trying to "hasten the demise" of more government healthcare-related programs than just the ones related to the ACA? One of my earlier posts (this one) says that Democratic and Republican leaders had already worked out an extension for CHIP around Sept 13. And that negotiated extension had even included an anti-ACA concession:

In a concession to Republicans, the agreement would phase out extra federal funds that have gone to states for the program since the additional money was mandated as part of President Barack Obama's 2010 health care law.

www.cbsnews.com...

So they weren't planning on extending CHIP in its entirety anyway.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Thursday, October 26, 2017

We'll see what's in the CHIP extension that Congress will hold a vote on next week. Hopefully, no cuts. Children should never have to sacrifice, due to budget (or any other) concerns, IMO.

The House will vote on extending funding for the Children's Health Insurance Program next week, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) announced Thursday.

The long-awaited vote comes after Republicans and Democrats failed to reach an agreement following weeks of negotiating ways to pay for the program.

"The reason why we're bringing it up next week is not because next week was the date we wanted to. We wanted to get this done long ago, but the reason why we're doing it next week is because Minnesota's about to run out of money," McCarthy said on the floor.

Full Article at: thehill.com...

originally posted by: carewemust
Thursday, October 26, 2017

We'll see what's in the CHIP extension that Congress will hold a vote on next week. Hopefully, no cuts. Children should never have to sacrifice, due to budget (or any other) concerns, IMO.

If sacrifice isn't ok for children, why is it ok for adults?

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: carewemust
Thursday, October 26, 2017

We'll see what's in the CHIP extension that Congress will hold a vote on next week. Hopefully, no cuts. Children should never have to sacrifice, due to budget (or any other) concerns, IMO.

If sacrifice isn't ok for children, why is it ok for adults?

Because children are dependent on adults to do the right thing for them..that's why.

January 17, 2018

If the new Budget proposal is adopted, the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) will be funded/extended for a full 6 years, instead of 1 year at a time. That would be great news!

Budget Negotiations Status: www.nbcnews.com...

originally posted by: carewemust
Because children are dependent on adults to do the right thing for them..that's why.

No more dependent than adults who need help.

a reply to: carewemust
ya except there was bipartisan support for it's funding all along and all they were doing was reserving the chip for when it would be more useful for their political bantering.
same with daca, there seems to be bipartisan support, but na, that's thousands of people we can hold hostage, let's see just how much we can get. if nothing else, we will have another reason to point the finger at the other party and divert the blame to them.
all that matter is that our party comes out the winner, right? who cares what's good for the country, or the people.... it's all about winning.
it's really rather sickening to sit and watch.

a reply to: dawnstar

It is rediculous how Congress is always scheming, instead of acting as honest brokers. They certainly shouldn't mess around with children's benefits.

American kids vs. illegals. This is what it's down to.

a reply to: ketsuko

Preposterous. As I showed back in September in this very thread (in this post), there has been bipartisan support for renewing the CHIP program since September. Republicans can pass the CHIP program at any time. They're just using it now as a bargaining chip.